[NIFL-4EFF:1232] Processing the Regie Stites Discussion

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Many thanks to Regie Stites for taking the time to address the 4EFF list and 
respond to our questions in such a thoughtful detailed way.  And thank you 
Debbie, Amy, Sue, Andy, Mary, and Gloria for sharing your situations and 
questions on-line.  

Last weekend, a friend (who is an adult language teacher) and I discussed the 
messages and wondered what some other subscribers were finding in Regie's 
postings, NIFL-4EFF: 1224,1225, 1226, and 1230. 

If you've had a chance to read and reflect on this recent batch of messages, 
what are you thinking about or discussing?  What did these messages suggest 
to you about your program, your learners and yourself?  What did they suggest 
to you about using EFF to guide instruction and assessment? 

My friend and I mostly discussed the implications for program and staff 
development in Regie's comments on "the most pressing public policy issues 
affecting the implementation of EFF...the first priority should be garnering 
broad-based support (and involvement) for developing an assessment framework 
that supports measures of meaningful results in adult learning and 
establishes reasonable expectations for resources needed to support such 
results.  Beyond this the other public policy supports that need to be in 
place to make EFF work at the program level include accountability structures 
that are aligned with learners' goals and program curricula, expanded 
professional development opportunities for teachers, expanded access to 
high-quality learning opportunities for students, and the resources and 
political will to make all this possible."  

We discussed how we would reform a program and provide staff development if 
we had a program to reform.  I think we were both struck by the idea of 
"will" and we were reminded of how important that can be -- to put good ideas 
(like EFF) into action.  

I liked the fact that Regie began his responses by working down from the 
systemic level. When I introduce EFF to various audiences, I find myself 
working up, from the learner and teacher. Therefore, I found Regie's approach 
helpful in thinking about how I present the big picture -- the foundation 
that the EFF framework offers for standards based reform of the system.

In his final message, Regie wrote: "I think that an assessment expert and 
policy wonk (like me) is less likely to provide useful guidance in this area 
[the meaningfulness and use of an EFF standard for planning instruction and 
assessment for ESOL] than teachers who have worked through this problem in 
practice."  Regie, I wondered if anyone else on the list read this and 
thought: How super it would be to have a wonk (or two) like you on staff -- 
to help us work through these problems together!

Thanks again,

Ronna

Ronna Spacone
NIFL-4EFF List Moderator
rgspacone@aol.com
Phone 202.338.2703



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