[NIFL-AALPD:171] RE: Please keep it among the respondents: Debby, Margery, Lou,

From: Alan Tubman - Matematiko (atubman@matematiko.com)
Date: Sun Apr 13 2003 - 18:37:50 EDT


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Actually listserves are meant to be shared by all the members,
respondents as well as non-respondents.  That is what makes listserves
interesting.  Although I do not often take part in the discussions, I do
follow them and learn from them.  Keep up the good work.

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Alan Tubman  Matematiko Developer
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-----Original Message-----
From: nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of
Barbara Raines
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 11:16 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:168] Please keep it among the respondents: Debby,
Margery, Lou,

Kay Tee, Jackie, Andre, Debby, Margery, Lou, Maria, et al

Please, I ask you respectfully, keep this interesting dialogue among
those 
who are responding.
The rest of us get frustrated opening up so many lengthy Emails to find 
that we just delete them.
We all would appreciate your consideration of this request.  Thank you.

Barbara

At 08:16 PM 04/11/2003 -0400, Niquette, Kaytee wrote:

>In regards to the questions it depends how strict the Muslim.  We have
>Muslim women that attend some of our other classes and they do not wear
>the hijab(head covering)and are rather verbose in classes.  They have
no
>problem learning in mixed company.  Many times the aversion to
>participate in a class of mixed company is based upon the cultural norm
>of the country they come from.  Some of the Middle Eastern countries
are
>much stricter than others.  For the Muslim women who are uncomfortable
>it is best to seat them separate from the men.  If you should have the
>students get into a circle it is best to put the ladies to one end away
>from the men and for partnered activities it needs to be female to
>female.
>When addressing topics to teach in the classroom it is best to consider
>what information and how much you would share in mixed company(e.g.
>anatomical words for the body(those specific to genitalia) and
>describing what certain doctors do. I have not had to address these
>subjects in mixed company with my Muslim ladies, but see myself having
a
>volunteer who would help to divide the class so that the Muslim ladies
>along with a few other ladies would have a separate discussion over the
>material to be covered.  By doing this the ladies feel less inhibited
to
>ask questions they might have on the subject. As a teacher, I would say
>not to be afraid to talk to the Muslim women and see what might make
>them feel comfortable enough to participate in class.
>I hope this gives ESOL teachers some ideas.
>
>FOB author, KayTee Niquette
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jataylor [mailto:jataylor@utk.edu]
>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:20 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:125] questions for Debby, Margery, Lou, Maria, and
>Kay Tee
>
>For Kay Tee:
>Imagine you are sitting in a workshop addressing diversity in ESOL.
>What
>specific teaching strategies would you recommend the presenter speak to
>regarding the teaching of Muslim women, in a women-only classroom?
>
>What if programs could not afford to provide a "women only" ESOL
>classroom?
>What strategies would you recommend professional developers advise ESOL
>teachers to try when teaching Muslim women in a classroom comprised of
>both
>women and men?
>
>
>Jackie Taylor



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