Return-Path: <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h41HttU22417; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <005507E7.017FC47C.0AB94E44@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AndresMuro@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:317] RE: Which list? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Status: O Content-Length: 5108 Lines: 117 Contrary to the NLA, this listserve appears to be focusing on practice. I have been focusing on questions about practice. Andres In a message dated 5/1/2003 9:49:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Debbie Yoho" <dwyoho@earthlink.net> writes: > >(I am cross-posting this question to the two lists mentioned as well as to >NIFL moderators because I don't know who can answer this question and on >which list I may find an answer). > >I have a question about the AALPD list and the AACE-NLA list. I have been >subscribing to both. I get almost no messages on the NLA LIST, but I notice >several well-known NLAers (Muro, Eckert, Demetrion, etc.) are posting often >to the AALPD list, and usually about what I would call advocacy issues. >With the end of NIFL NLA, I'm confused now why the NLA dialog does not seem >to have materialized on the AACE NLA. Is this just my perception? More to >the point, where should I be looking for policy discussion? I'd like to >unsubscribe to AALPD but am afraid I will miss information, especially >about what is going on in the states. (I rely on the NCL list now for >national info and alerts, and hope and trust that dialog is kept current.) > >Deborah W. Yoho >Co-moderator, NIFL-Health Listserv >President, SC Adult Literacy Educators >Executive Director, Greater Columbia Literacy Council >2728 Devine Street, Columbia, SC 29205 >803-765-2555 Fax 803-779-8417 dwyoho@earthlink.net > > >> [Original Message] >> From: George E. Demetrion <sophocles5@juno.com> >> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> >> Date: 5/1/2003 8:10:59 AM >> Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:304] Response to Sherry >> >> Dear Dr. Royce: >> >> There is absolutely nothing preventing you and others from initiating the >> discussions you would like to have. The beauty of listserv discussions >> is that they enable many discussions to flourish simultaneously. Several >> of have made an argument as to why the current threads are relevant to >> this list. What we haven't seen is anything remotely resembling a >> point-by-point counterargument. Nor have the issues which have >> stimulated this current thread been addressed. >> >> Politics are being played out at many levels on the open airwaves and >> behind the scenes of forces shaping what is and what isn't viewed as >> publicity legitimate. What's being discussed here has everything to do >> with professional development. I'm more than a little concerned about >> efforts to marginalize this discussion by sending us off to the >> hinterlands. The point is not our capacity to have private discussion >> among ourselves, but public discussion about issues that matter on the >> open airwaves. >> >> Why are so many people hostile to that? Just change the subject, but >> please don't inhibit us for pursuing these matters, which are being >> thrust upon us by various political forces stemming from current DC >> policy perspectives. If this is all about defining reality (and make no >> mistake, it is), then I vote for a healthy pluralism even amidst >> conflicting perspectives then a passive conformity to a broadly-based >> given political "reality" where other voices are marginalized or >> repressed. In all seriousness, how about you. Professional development, >> itself, is impaired in a political culture that seeks to colonize the >> field of public legitimacy. >> >> With respect (and I mean that) >> George Demetrion >> >> >> On Thu, 1 May 2003 08:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Sherry Royce/C >> <sjroyce@comcast.net> writes: >> >Andres: >> >I recently recommended this list to my professional development >> >colleagues in Pennsylvania in the hopes that it would deal with ABLE >> >teachers and trainers' best practices and research related to them. I >> >find that it has become a rehash of the NLA list which addressed >> >political and philosophical issues with the same correspondents who >> >have>apparently more time than practitioners to state their views. That >> was >> >the intent of that list and accepted as such. >> > >> >I do not find those discussions appropriate for this listserv and as >> >the>number of resignations indicate a waste of time for professional >> >development specialists and teachers who have little time but a great >> >desire to improve ABLE practice. With the current financial situation >> >in>the field, there are few places to go to network with knowledable >> >colleagues interested in best practices. This site had and has >> >enormouspotential if it is left to deal with current problems and >> solutions >> >such>as those called for by the US Department of Education's >> Clearinghouse >> >for Best Practices (website: http://www.w-w-c.org/topic4.html). >> > >> >If you and Catherine and Janet and George want to talk with each other >> >about politics and philosophy, why not try an AOL chat room? >> > >> >Sherry Royce >> > >> >Dr. Sherry Royce >> >Royce & Royce, Inc. >> >1938 Crooked Oak Drive >> >Lancaster, PA 17601 >> > >> >Tel: 717-569-1663 >> >email: sjroyce@comcast.net >> > >> > > > > > -- go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html
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