Return-Path: <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i1E0HgI06016; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:17:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:17:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <Sea2-F43TjRoxz8IP390000cb0c@hotmail.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Joshua Hayes" <joshchayes@hotmail.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:1018] My two cents X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Status: O Content-Length: 3792 Lines: 95 Tom, The need for phonemic awareness in children and adults is well established. Do you think the literacy crisis in our country can be solved by providing (1) an initial learning alphabet for kids to obtain reading/writing capability, (2) which transitions as kids learn traditional spelling to a dictionary pronunciation and word-lookup guide, (3) that also serves as a standard pronunciation guide for other languages rewritten in truespel. as you said in a letter to the editor of Literacy Innovations in July/August 2001. http://www.literacy.org/li/li200108/comments.html Language, writing, and literacy are not multiplication tables to be memorized, but the way we communicate, socialize and participate as citizens. Exactly what aspects of a phonics only instruction would cover the critical thinking skills needed to master the objectives of, say, a Civics class under the English Language/Civics programs preparing students for citizenship. Would you consider these courses simply literacy and test prep? I feel that they are an integral part of illustrating to immigrants the benfits of our country and society. And in much the same way, native english speaking adults in literacy and GED programs, espically those of us who work with the homeless, new immigrants, and the incarcerated, are fundamentally alienated from mainstream society. If you feel that these classes have some responsibility for preparing students to be full and active members of our democratic society, exactly how will phonics only help them develop the critical reading and writing skills neccessary to express their beliefs and identities within their communties and to show their children the neccesity for education, self-reliance, and all the other "American Dream" rhetoric surrounding the No Child Left Behind goals? Does anyone know where phonics only advocates draw the line, or do we integrate an arithmetic approach to all aspects of adults' and children's literacy? Josh Josh Joshua Craig Hayes Adult Literacy Instructor SEARCH Project 2505 Fannin Houston, Texas 77002 713-739-7752 ext 135 http://www.searchproject.org ----Original Message Follows---- From: tom zurinskas <tzurinskas@yahoo.com> Reply-To: nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:1015] Re: Don't cede the realm of research to the positivists Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:55:05 -0500 (EST) --- AndresMuro@aol.com wrote: > Trouble is, that thay ain't even positivists. > Yesterday we got a phonics message that had not even > a hint of scientific research. It was all based on > opinions of one guy, that wrote a long an > sensationalist and unscientific article. > > Andres The message on phonics sited this research with regard to prison literacy "Even more troubling are the findings of The Orton Dyslexia Society that illiterate adults account for 75 percent of the unemployed, one third of the mothers receiving AFDC, 85 percent of the juveniles who appear in court, 60 percent of prison inmates, and nearly 40 percent of minority youth.” Perhaps you missed the citation. Tom Z ===== Read all about truespel at truespel.com. Read “Truespel Book One: Analysis of the Sounds (Phonemes) of USA English http://www.1stbooks.com/cgi-bin/1st?partner~1st|type~6|Data1~16593 Convert text to truespel USA accent by copy/pasting it at: http://www.foreignword.com/dictionary/truespel/transpel.htm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _________________________________________________________________ Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx
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