Return-Path: <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i1JFewI04189; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:40:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:40:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6479C743.6A6B7371.0AB94E44@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AndresMuro@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-aalpd@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:1092] Re: Activities for NIFL-AALPD X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Status: O Content-Length: 9558 Lines: 292 Jackie: I think that this book may be appropriate for PD. H. Zinn's position si that the history that we learn is not the history of the people, but of the leaders and the wealthy. he argues that the poor, the minorities and the middle class, "the people", have a very different, not told history. One of the arguments that is always made is that adult education has to be grounded in the realities of the learners. Also, Paulo Freire always argues that literacy requires that we know our history and our historical context. John Dewey argues that learning has to be grounded in our own personal experiences and contexts. We could explore, if Zinn's book is really about our history, and that of our learners, and how we could develop lessons that are meaningful and valuable to our students. We could contrast Zinn's historical version w/ the standard historical version, and discuss how learners could learn from contrasting these two histories. Critcal Pedagogists always argue that to have a voice people need to know their own history. Having a voice allows them to participate in society. Andres In a message dated 2/19/2004 9:31:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, jataylor@utk.edu writes: > > Hi Andres, > Could you say more about what you mean - not about CEUs, but about reading > Howard Zinn. You've read the book, give us your perspective on his writing, > and his approach to these sensitive issues. > > Thanks! > > Jackie > (PS - You say by the 30th - of March?) > > >===== Original Message From nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov ===== > >In a message dated 2/19/2004 8:41:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Bonnie > Odiorne" <bonniesophia@adelphia.net> writes: > > > >>I'd like to try this, too. Can we get CEUs? :-) > > > >Now, that'll be really cool. Getting NIFL to give us CEUs for reading Howard > Zinn. > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of > >>sfugate1 > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 4:34 PM > >>To: Multiple recipients of list > >>Subject: [NIFL-AALPD:1076] Re: Activities for NIFL-AALPD > >> > >> > >>Okay! I'm game for a try. This is so intriguing, how can I resist? > >> > >>I looked the book up on Amazon. There are excerpts available, as well as > >>reviews. > >> > >>Sandra > >> > >>>===== Original Message From nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov ===== > >>>Book is long, 700+ pages. However, it is easy to read, like a novel. My > >>idea > >>is that we read a couple of chapters every two weeks, about 40 pages. Then, > >>every two weeks on a given day we post comments and question about what we > >>read, and how we felt about it. Also, we post sample ESL or GED activities > >>that we would develop for the students based on the read chapters. This > >>would > >>be very informal. We could commit to read the first two chapters and see > >>what > >>transcends. The book is very thought provoking and powerful. It catches your > >>eye from the get go. It is also very controversial. So, it ought to generate > >>lots of discussion. > >>> > >>>Andres > >>> > >>>In a message dated 2/18/2004 2:48:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >>sfugate1@utk.edu writes: > >>> > >>> > >>> Andres, > >>> > >>> I am interested, but I would like to have a little more information > >>before > >>I > >>> commit. I am not familiar with the book. Could you tell us the length > >>of > >>the > >>> book and some of your ideas (such as a timeline) for this project before > >>we > >>> commit? I would really enjoy a project like this if it does not require > >>too > >>> much time. > >>> > >>> Sandra > >>> PS I teach ESOL two nights each week. > >>> > >>> > >>> >===== Original Message From nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov ===== > >>> >If Jackie is game, we should start ASAP. 4 to 6 people would be an ideal > >>#. > >>> Of course it would be open to everyone. As son as we have 4 candidates we > >>can > >>> discuss and post a schedule of action. > >>> > > >>> >Andres > >>> > > >>> >In a message dated 2/18/2004 1:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >>> sfugate1@utk.edu writes: > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> >> I like this idea. It could give us a better 'feel' for the > >>beneficiaries > >>> of > >>> >> the PD which we create----the teacher and ultimately the learner. > >>> >> > >>> >> Additionally, perhaps those who are teaching would be willing to go a > >>step > >>> >> further and try some of the lessons that are posted with your adult > >>> learners, > >>> >> then, give feedback to the list. We might also want to share insight > >>that > >>> we > >>> >> gain as professional developers. As Andres mentions, "One of the > >>arguments > >>> >> that is always made is that adult education has to be grounded in the > >>> >> realities of the learners." We, too, need to be grounded in the > >>realities > >>> of > >>> >> those we serve. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >===== Original Message From nifl-aalpd@nifl.gov ===== > >>> >> >Hi everyone: > >>> >> > > >>> >> >A friend of mine suggested to me last Friday that we read "A People's > >>> History > >>> >> of the United States" By Horward Zinn. We will read 2 chapters every > >>two > >>> weeks > >>> >> and discuss them on Fridays. > >>> >> > > >>> >> >I think that this book may be appropriate for PD. H. Zinn's position > >>si > >>> that > >>> >> the history that we learn is not the hitory of the people, but of the > >>> leaders > >>> >> and the wealthy. he argues that the poor, the minorities and the > >>middle > >>> class > >>> >> "the people" have a very different, not told history. > >>> >> > > >>> >> >We could read pieces of this text and post questions about how we > >>would > >>go > >>> >> about turning texts from this book into activities for our students. > >>One > >>of > >>> >> the arguments that is always made is that adult education has to be > >>> grounded > >>> >> in the realities of the learners. Also, Paulo Freire always argues > >>that > >>> >> literacy requires that we know our history and our historical context. > >>We > >>> >> could explore, if Zinn's book is really about our history, and that of > >>our > >>> >> learners, and how we could develop lessons that are meaningful and > >>valuable > >>> to > >>> >> our students. > >>> >> > > >>> >> >We could follow the schedule that I set up with my friend, two > >>chapters > >>> every > >>> >> two weeks. This is very easy reading, btw. > >>> >> > > >>> >> >Just a suggestion, > >>> >> > > >>> >> >Andres > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> >In a message dated 2/18/2004 7:57:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >>> >> jataylor@utk.edu writes: > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Colleagues: > >>> >> >> Would you like to see more discussion activities on NIFL-AALPD? > >>> >> Discussions > >>> >> >> around PD-related articles and research, the latest hot topics in > >>PD? > >>> Maybe > >>> >> >> you know of a professional developer or a team of professional > >>> developers > >>> >> >> doing some very exciting work and you would like to learn more > >>about > >>it? > >>> >> If > >>> >> >> so, then I wanted to invite the group to join in a brainstorm of > >>> possible > >>> >> >> loosely scheduled discussions that you would like to see occur on > >>the > >>> list > >>> >> >> this spring. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> 1)Please offer professional development topics of interest to you > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> 2) current articles and recent research you would like to discuss > >>on > >>the > >>> >> list. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Currently, I am looking into the possibility for a discussion event > >>this > >>> >> >> spring regarding Content and Course Design for Online PD. Other > >>ideas > >>> >> *might* > >>> >> >> include: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> - Professional Development and "getting the vote out" > >>> >> >> - Publications and research recently posted to NIFL-AALPD from > >>CAAL, > >>> NCLE, > >>> >> >> NCSALL, and others; > >>> >> >> - Promoting staff diversity; > >>> >> >> - Teacher change; > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> etc. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> But it's up to you. What are your thoughts? Please share your > >>ideas > >>on > >>> >> the > >>> >> >> list, as your ideas may spark ideas for others. Or, you > >>> >> can send them > >>> >> >> directly to me at <jataylor@utk.edu>. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Additionally, if you know of any possible guest > >>> speakers > >>> >> >> for any of the topics > >>> >> >> you recommend, please email me those name(s) > off-list. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Thanks! > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Jackie Taylor > >>> >> >> List Moderator > >>> >> >> NIFL-AALPD > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> >go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html > >>> >> > >>> >> Sandra Fugate > >>> >> Research Associate > >>> >> UT Center for Literacy Studies > >>> >> 600 Henley St., Suite 312 > >>> >> Knoxville, TN 37998-4135 > >>> >> Phone: 865-974-7908 > >>> >> Fax: 865-974-3857 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> >go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html > >>> > >>> Sandra Fugate > >>> Research Associate > >>> UT Center for Literacy Studies > >>> 600 Henley St., Suite 312 > >>> Knoxville, TN 37998-4135 > >>> Phone: 865-974-7908 > >>> Fax: 865-974-3857 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html > >> > >>Sandra Fugate > >>Research Associate > >>UT Center for Literacy Studies > >>600 Henley St., Suite 312 > >>Knoxville, TN 37998-4135 > >>Phone: 865-974-7908 > >>Fax: 865-974-3857 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html > > > > go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html
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