[NIFL-AALPD:2187] RE: challenges of learner leadership

From: David Rosen (djrosen@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Jun 03 2005 - 11:09:16 EDT


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Will, Ernest and others,

I agree that Ernest has raised an important point.  Part of this is 
about respect for adult learners as adults, and what teachers can do -- 
and how they can learn how to do it -- to show respect. Respect affects 
the quality of teaching.  Teachers who do not know _how_ to show 
respect for adult learners will not be able to retain them or help them 
as well as those who do.

Teachers of adults may need to shift their teaching paradigm to take 
into account areas where some of their students have more expertise 
than they do.  An ESL/ESOL teacher may be an expert in teaching 
English; or a GED preparation teacher in the content of the GED tests 
and ideally in content needed for post-secondary preparation. But they 
are not necessarily experts in health (an area which requires numeracy 
and English language skills) or in using computers or the Internet, or 
in navigating the legal, welfare, or school system in their students' 
communities, or in many other areas in which some of their students 
_are_ experts.  Being a good teacher requires recognizing, 
acknowledging, and using all the expertise in the classroom.  If 
students have expertise which is relevant to the class, the teacher 
should draw on it.

Here's an example which is critical to the quality of adult education 
teaching.  Many adult education teachers, unfortunately, are not 
comfortable or competent in using computers or the Internet.  There are 
many reasons for this, some of which have to do with inadequate 
technology access and training.  Nevertheless, every teacher I have 
talked with about this agrees that some students in her/his class are 
comfortable and competent,  know how to use computers well, and in some 
cases are comfortable in sharing this expertise.  This is a situation 
in which a teaching paradigm shift is essential.  The teacher needs to 
say, "in technology I am not an expert, and yet we all need to learn 
more about how to use computers.  Let's see who has some expertise in 
this area, and then let's all benefit.  Let's learn together."  In this 
case, some students become teachers (or tutors, mentors, or "subject 
matter experts" ). This is not a compensation for a teacher deficiency. 
   It's a teaching-learning model shift.  The teacher is not the primary 
source of knowledge about this subject.  The teacher is a learner and a 
facilitator -- helping subject matter experts to learn how to share 
their knowledge.  This is an ideal teaching learning paradigm for 
constructivist, project-based learning.  But many teachers will need 
some support in making this shift.  Adult learners could be involved in 
that training and support.

How could this happen? Here's one idea, a professional development 
workshop where a teacher and her tech-savvy students together learn how 
to offer a short computer literacy course for the students in the class 
or at the program or school.  The savvy students and teacher all are 
introduced to the computer literacy curriculum together.  They learn 
together what it will take to implement it.  They all become mentors.  
The teacher or a student (depending on who is most comfortable and 
experienced in this role) facilitates the computer literacy class 
process where they all are available to help other students become 
comfortable and competent in using computers.

I wonder if anyone on this list has done this, or is interested in 
doing it.


David J. Rosen


On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:04 AM, BlastGrant@aol.com wrote:

>
> I'd like to pick up the thread from Ernest  Best's post on May 13th. 
> It was a
> challenging, thought provoking post.
>
> Ernest wrote about one of the hardest areas of student leadership and  
> ABE --
> real equality between student leaders and educators. Ernest took the
> question past student leadership and raised the question of respect and
> condescension to students in all of ABE.
>
> This topic gets to the center of  traditional education: Teachers have
> knowledge, students are there to learn that  knowledge. Its not equal. 
> Participatory
> education and student leadership change  that fundamental relationship.
>
> This is not a black and white topic. Its  not about giving all power 
> to the
> students. We can't just say "We're all equal  here." Because we're 
> not. There
> are real differences in skills, knowledge, and  access to the system. 
> But the
> power does not all flow in one direction. Students  bring as much to 
> the table
> as educators. Students and teachers have different  knowledge, 
> different
> strengths, different blindspots. The question is how do we  learn to 
> communicate
> with each other about them.
>
>
> Two weeks ago at a  student leadership training here in New Mexico a 
> teacher
> said "Students, you  have to understand that we teachers are not 
> trained in
> how to do student  leadership. In teacher training, we are taught to be
> traditional teachers. We  teach you. We are not taught how to work 
> with you as equals.
> All of these topics  about culture and voice and leadership are great, 
> its
> why I am here. But they  are new to me. I was taught how to write a 
> curriculum
> and a lesson plan. I know  how to make a good test. You want me to 
> teach you as
> an equal, but I don't know  how. I was not taught that way by my 
> teachers,
> and I don't know how to teach you  that way. I'm still learning how to 
> do that."
>
> These are learnable  skills.  When I first started working with student
> leaders, I had to learn  the hard way. When would I let my ego get the 
> better of me
> and start to think  that I knew what the students needed to do, 
> students
> left. In my mind, they were  right. When I stayed true to having 
> students' ideas
> and values lead, the  projects worked. When a student leadership 
> project isn't
> working, the first  place I look is at the communication and trust 
> between the
> students and the  teachers. Over time, building trust and real 
> equality with
> students have become  the most important things I've learned as an 
> educator.
>
> I think  that building trust and taking leadership from students are 
> also
> some of the  most important skills a classroom teacher can develop.
>
> These are not  just new teaching skills.  For a lot of us, they are a 
> new way
> to relate to  people. Its a multicultural skill. To be student 
> centered,
> participatory, or  student led, we have to learn to share power with 
> people from
> different economic  classes, education levels, cultures, races and 
> genders. And
> where can teachers  learn these skills?
>



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