Return-Path: <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i2RKttm27270; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:55:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:55:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <000101c4143c$76984360$0302a8c0@wtrbct.adelphia.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Bonnie Odiorne" <bonniesophia@adelphia.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:448] RE: Eileen time and responsibility for assessment and record-keeping X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 3796 Lines: 110 Ditto for me. Warmest Regards, Bonnie Odiorne Ph.D Program Faciliator Working Smart Computers 4 Kids Silas Bronson Library Information Technology Center P.O. Box 787 Waterbury, CT 06720-0787 Integrating Technology, ABE and ESL Instruction bonniesophia@adelphia.net -----Original Message----- From: nifl-assessment@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-assessment@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Nixon S. Griffis Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 10:37 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:446] RE: Eileen time and responsibility for assessment and record-keeping Eileen, Thank you for your offer of the rubrics. I would appreciate the kindness and look forward to any new tool that helps me run my lab more effectively. Please send copy to address below (in which case I can reimburse you for expenses) or to my e-mail (ngriffis@bellsouth.net). Thanks, Nick Griffis Adult Education Inlet Grove H.S. Riviera Beach, Florida 33480 561-882-9967 -----Original Message----- From: nifl-assessment@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-assessment@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Eileen Eckert Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:442] time and responsibility for assessment and record-keeping Nick, I'm not sure what new teacher behavior, paperwork, and record-keeping you're referring to, but teacher time is always a big issue. If you mean that assessment or documentation of things like attendance improvements and students calling in when they can't be there, Don said that in his program they're already doing that, so I didn't see including students as a big additional chore. Adding assessments could be a big time and energy drain for the teacher, but it doesn't have to be. If students know the assessment criteria and learn in class how to do a self-evaluation, they can keep a binder/folder with their records and self-evaluations. You could allow time for them to update those records during class, and use that time to meet with individuals and give feedback on progress and next steps while the rest are working on their own. Just my opinion, but I believe that time spent on non-content assessment and student self-evaluation is not a diversion from the main event of teaching; it's an important part of it. If students master content but never become aware and choose their learning strategies, attitudes, and work habits, then they may be (and remain) dependent on a teacher or other "authority" to be the arbiter of their success instead of making informed choices for themselves. I've been working with teachers to develop rubrics and student self-evaluation forms that meet their needs; these teachers typically spend about 25 hours per week in the classroom (treated like teaching machines, but that another issue) so anything they use has to be really teacher-friendly. I'd be happy to send samples on to you. Eileen From: "Nixon S. Griffis" <ngriffis@bellsouth.net> Reply-To: nifl-assessment@nifl.gov To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:441] RE: Feedback about new, better, teacher behavior and its' connected strategy Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:03:08 -0500 (EST) Feedback: More paperwork and more record keeping pushed into the teacher's already too small window. This must always be kept in mind when thinking of new stratagem for positive changes that the teaCHER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. What does this new advised behavior replace or make more time/effort saving? Nick Griffis Adult Education Inlet Grove H.S. Riviera Beach, Florida 33480 561-882-9967 _________________________________________________________________ Get reliable access on MSN 9 Dial-up. 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
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