Return-Path: <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i4CFKum03518; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <BAY17-F10HgS2llAwN00003f600@hotmail.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Marie Cora" <mariecora@hotmail.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:544] Cross-post from NIFL-PLI: Using Data for Program Improvement X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Status: O Content-Length: 16445 Lines: 332 Hi everyone, Warning: this is a lengthy post. But for those who are interested in this topic, in particular in regards to: -responding to the NRS -if/how analyzing program data is done in your program or even seen as useful then this is a good thing for you to read. There are a couple of comments by program folks in response to an overview by Larrry Condelli of his work with the NRS in which he poses a series of questions about using data for program improvement at the end. For a couple of articles about using data, go to: http://literacy.kent.edu/Midwest/assessment/adventures_vol13.html or click on Adventures in Assessment at the NIFL Assessment Collection and look for Volume 13. thanks, marie cora NIFL Assessment List Moderator >From: Sandy Strunk <sandy_strunk@iu13.org> >Reply-To: Sandy Strunk <sandy_strunk@iu13.org>, Program Leadership and >Improvement Discussion List<nifl-pli@nifl.gov> >To: Leadership and Improvement Dis <nifl-pli@nifl.gov> >Subject: RE: [NIFL-PLI] Re: NIFL-PLI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 >Date: 11 May 2004 11:10:45 -0700 > > Reply to: RE: [NIFL-PLI] Re: NIFL-PLI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 >Sonia makes some interesting points that I'd like to turn back to the group >for discussion. I've been doing this work for almost twenty years now, but >it's hard for me to remember the days before program accountability was a >primary focus for those of us who are leaders in our field. None-the-less, >there was such a time and it wasn't as if we all sat around waiting for >something to do or for someone to invent an adult education accountability >system. >Before the advent of the NRS, which data, if any, WERE programs actually >collecting and analyzing data as a basis for program improvement? We often >talk about data for decision-making as if it were a no-brainer, but in my >experience, not every program buys into ongoing data collection and >analysis as a basis for continuous improvement. > >Last night, I was reading a dissertation by Priscilla Sissem, one of my PA >colleagues, titled, "Leaders of Adult Basic and Literacy Education Programs >in Pennsylvania: A Typology of Leadership Styles and Organizational Issues >in Context." Her premise is that leaders in our field can be broken into >three typologies: Founders, Mainstreamers, and Prospectors -- with each >type approaching this work somewhat differently. She notes that whereas >some program leaders believe that increased accountability has set a higher >standard for our field, has brought us credibility and a new >professionalism, others suggest that increased accountability has >undermined one of our most deeply held commitments - the commitment to >learners as individuals and to each learner's need for individualized >instruction. This tension is fascinating and certainly underscores the >diversity of the leadership in our field. > >Larry's questions about how we use data for program improvement are based >on the assumption that program leaders actually find value in collecting >and analyzing data as a basis for decision-making. Clearly, some do and >others do not. I'm wondering if any discussion related to using the NRS >for program improvement might need to start with an exploration of state >and federal accountability systems in general and the impact they have had, >and continue to have, on our field. > >Any thoughts? > > >Sandy Strunk >Lancaster Lebanon Intermediate Unit 13 >Adult Basic and Family Literacy Education >1110 Enterprise Road >East Petersburg, PA 17520 >(717) 519-1006 > >Sonia Socha wrote: > >This overview from Larry was excellent information for a provider in the > >field to pass on to staff who are trying to implement the NRS. > > > >The questions at the end will yake along time to answer and I prefer not >to >write. Would much rather have a personal conversation with Mr. >Condelli. > > > >In many ways, our program was way ahead of NRS intitially with collecting > >data and making program improvements based on our collections--but what >we collect >and what we look for is slightly different than what the feds >are looking for. >And , of course, there are those items that are the >same--but we anaylze them >differently. > > > >Do not have the time to answer these questions now--too much on the plate > >in the month of May--especially completing grants for adult literacy >funding! We >are also preparing for a visit from USDE in June--I know our >staff will have much >to say about data collection during that monitoring >visit. > > > >Happy to talk sometime over the summer--I am sure our program will have > >much to contribute to the questions outlined below. > > > >Thank you for the opportunity. > > >>>> nifl-pli-request@nifl.gov 05/10/04 12:00PM >>> > >Send NIFL-PLI mailing list submissions to > > nifl-pli@literacy.nifl.gov > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/nifl-pli >or, via email, send a >message with subject or body 'help' to > > nifl-pli-request@literacy.nifl.gov > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > nifl-pli-owner@literacy.nifl.gov > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of NIFL-PLI digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Using NRS Data for Program Improvement (Sandy Strunk) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: 10 May 2004 07:59:03 -0700 > >From: Sandy Strunk <sandy_strunk@iu13.org> > >Subject: [NIFL-PLI] Using NRS Data for Program Improvement > >To: "NIFL -PLI List" <nifl-pli@literacy.nifl.gov> > >Message-ID: <20040510115616.D0950470023@relay.iu13.org> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >The following posting is from Larry Condelli, Managing Director in the > >Education and Human Development Division of the American Institues for >Research. >Larry leads the adult education team and is project director for >the National >Reporting System. He has been involved in projects on ESL >research, the professional >development of adult educators and the >development of content standards for adult >education. He has worked in >adult education since 1990. > > > >At the end of his posting, Larry poses several questions he hopes you'll > >respond to. I, too, hope you will take this opportunity to discuss the >National >Reporting System and how NRS data can be used for program >improvement. > > > >Sandy Strunk, PLI List Moderator > > > >******************************************************** > > > > > > Several years ago, I started a new job and my first assignment was a >very >small project to help the Division of Adult Education and Literacy >(DAEL) assist >states to improve their ability to evaluate the quality of >local adult education >programs. Little did I suspect that this work would >eventually evolve into >developing the national accountability system for >the adult education program, and >what we now know as the National >Reporting System (NRS). Before this, I had little >knowledge of adult >education and accountability, but life has a way of bringing >about the >unexpected. > Most people probably don't know that the NRS had its origin >in 1996, when >a group of state directors of adult education were the first >to move forward the >idea for a national accountability system. At that >time there were proposals in >Congress to roll adult education into a >national work force development block >grant system. It was widely feared >that block grants, giving governors discret! >ion >on how to set up the system in their states, would mean the end of the >adult >education program. At the same time, demands for accountability >increased for all >programs, at both the federal and state levels. To >preserve meet these demands and >adult education, state directors and >others realized we needed a way to collect >valid and reliable data to show >what adult education is, the type of students who >enrolled and the >outcomes students achieved * and that these outcomes went beyond > >employment. DAEL responded in 1997 with a two-year project, which I >directed, >to develop an outcome-ba! > >sed accountability system in collaboration with state education directors > >and other adult educators. > One goal in developing this system was to >produce a set of valid and >reliable data that could demonstrate to >legislators and other policymakers the value >of adult education. But we >also wanted the system to do more than that. We >recognized the value of >data as a program improvement tool and wanted the system to be >a source of >information for states and local programs to use for program >management >and improvement. Therefore, we tried to build state flexibility into the >data >requirements. > > > >Based on the system we developed though this project in 1997-1998, the >NRS >was born and eventually incorporated into the Workforce Investment Act >(WIA) in >1998. WIA made the system mandatory (we had considered it >voluntary until then) >and added a requirement for states to set >performance standards for outcome >measures and an incentive award program >to motivate performance. Our focus then >shifted from system development >to implementation. > > > >Since 1998, we have engaged in a series of training and technical > >assistance activities that we hoped would build on each other to meet our >dual goals of >having an effective accountability system and a source of >data for local and state >program improvement efforts. We planned these >activities in three phases. >First, we needed to get the NRS understood >and working in each state, which we >accomplished through national and >regional training, development of policy and >procedural documents, web >sites and individual technical assistance. >In the second phase we focused >on improving the quality of data and >improving the uniformity of how >states and programs collected the date. In 2002, we >produced a data >quality guide for local programs that described ways to collect data >in >valid and reliable ways and reinforced this information with regional > >trainings of state staff. As these data quality improvement efforts >continue we moved >into the third phase of assistance, pr! >omoting data use for program management and >improvement among states and >local programs. We again developed a "how-to" >guide, accompanied by >regional state trainings in 2003. Most recently, we are just >now >completing a third series of workshops on using data for program monitoring >to >assess local program performance and identify areas for change. > > > >Promoting NRS data use for program improvement continues to be one of our > >top priorities. We see using data as the key to improving the quality of >local >programs and as a way to get state and local staff to understand the >value of data >* to see data not as an administrative burden, but a >valuable tool. I think we >are beginning to see some successes in this >area. We used to have to spend some >time at our trainings to answer >questions about the NRS and defend its purpose and >value. Now we not only >hear more acceptances, but a genuine desire to learn to >use data and >really improve program qualityØour original goal all along. For >example, >programs are using data to make recruitment and enrollment decisions and > >schedule class times and instructional approaches. States are using data >to >identify high performing and low performing programs, to target >technical assistance >for program improvement and make funding decisions. >Many states NRS data systems >now have r! >eports built ! > >in that help local programs understand their student attendance, >enrollment >and outcomes and make informed decisions on program improvement >efforts. > > > >While this is heartening to know, we also know there is a lot more work >to >do, which brings us to our topic, using NRS data for program >improvement. In >traveling the country and doing training and technical >assistance on this topic I >recognize some of the issues involved in using >data and have heard several of the >questions that can serve as a basis for >our discussion here. > > > >What kinds of decisions do you make using data? What kinds of data do >you >use to steer local improvement? > > > >How accessible are these data to you? > > > >What successes have you had in using data? > > > >What data do you need that NRS does not collect? > > > >What are barriers to using data? What other systems and structures do > >states and local programs need to put into place to supplement NRS data? > > > >Larry Condelli > >American Institutes for Research > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >NIFL-PLI mailing list > >NIFL-PLI@literacy.nifl.gov >To unsubscribe or change your subscription >settings, please go to >http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/nifl-pli > > > > >End of NIFL-PLI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 > >************************************** > >_______________________________________________ > >NIFL-PLI mailing list > >NIFL-PLI@literacy.nifl.gov > >To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > >http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/nifl-pli > > > >RFC822 header > >----------------------------------- > > > > Return-Path: <nifl-pli-bounces@literacy.nifl.gov> > > Received: from relay.iu13.org ([unix socket]) > > by mail.iu13.org (Cyrus v2.1.11-Lancaster-Lebanon-IU13-Mail-Services) > >with LMTP; Mon, 10 May 2004 15:47:38 -0400 > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Received: from gabbro.iu13.org (gabbro.iu13.org [172.21.1.73]) > > by relay.iu13.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > > id BC6584701CF; Mon, 10 May 2004 15:47:37 -0400 (EDT) > > Received: from literacy.nifl.gov (unknown [192.188.111.2]) > > by gabbro.iu13.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > > id 1A1672FEA9; Mon, 10 May 2004 15:47:35 -0400 (EDT) > > Received: from literacy.nifl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id i4AJkLm12593; > > Mon, 10 May 2004 15:46:21 -0400 (EDT) > > Received: from NW51_1 (mail.southbaltimorelearns.org [141.157.37.194]) > > by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i4AJURm12187 > > for <nifl-pli@nifl.gov>; Mon, 10 May 2004 15:30:27 -0400 (EDT) > > Received: from SBLC_DOM-Message_Server by NW51_1 > > with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 May 2004 15:27:24 -0400 > > Message-Id: <s09f9f5c.024@NW51_1> > > X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.4 > > Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:27:15 -0400 > > From: "Sonia Socha" <Ssocha@southbaltimorelearns.org> > > To: <nifl-pli@nifl.gov> > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by literacy.nifl.gov >id > > i4AJURm12187 > > X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:46:14 -0400 > > Cc: > Subject: [NIFL-PLI] Re: NIFL-PLI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 > > X-BeenThere: nifl-pli@literacy.nifl.gov > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: Program Leadership and Improvement Discussion List > ><nifl-pli@nifl.gov> > > List-Id: Program Leadership and Improvement Discussion List > > <nifl-pli.literacy.nifl.gov> > > List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/nifl-pli>, > > <mailto:nifl-pli-request@literacy.nifl.gov?subject=unsubscribe> > > List-Archive: <http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/nifl-pli> > > List-Post: <mailto:nifl-pli@literacy.nifl.gov> > > List-Help: <mailto:nifl-pli-request@literacy.nifl.gov?subject=help> > > List-Subscribe: <http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/nifl-pli>, > > <mailto:nifl-pli-request@literacy.nifl.gov?subject=subscribe> > > Sender: nifl-pli-bounces@nifl.gov > > Errors-To: nifl-pli-bounces@nifl.gov > > X-Content-Scanned: by IU 13 eMail Scanning > > > >_______________________________________________ >NIFL-PLI mailing list >NIFL-PLI@literacy.nifl.gov >To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/nifl-pli _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
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