Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5/980425bjb) with SMTP id KAA23678; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 10:47:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 10:47:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <E1B205262F50D2118F0C00A0247C2FDA0DF930@occs-mail.occs.state.or.us> Errors-To: lmann@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Precure Agnes <agnes.precure@occs.state.or.us> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:2719] RE: Adult ESL, EFL , and specialized ESL programs X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) We too, are struggling with this question in Oregon. Regarding visitors, that part is easy. We put them in fee based classes and do not use federal and state ESL money to provide them with services. However, the question of appropriate cut-off levels is a much harder one. I've convened an ESL assessment committee of community college ESL program directors and instructors, and they are currently trying to frame the question more clearly for broader disucssion. It is my hope to also involve adult learners in this discussion, since it directly impacts them. If others have input on this, I'd be really interested. I'll keep the list posted as we move forward. Agnes > -----Original Message----- > From: Dawn Griffiths [SMTP:dawn_griffiths@cpcc.cc.nc.us] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 2:11 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [NIFL-ESL:2689] Adult ESL, EFL , and specialized ESL > programs > > OK, I see I know how to post. Here's the question. > > It concerns the Adult ESL and EFL programs here on our community college > campus. In the Adult ESL program, we serve refugees and newly arrived > immigrants. However, visitors often attend these classes as well. We are > now developing new courses for nominal fees where tourists and advanced > ESL learners (who are not interested in the academic program) can learn > English, but not "take the seats" of those who are entitled to categorical > funds for free classes in the Adult ESL program. > > The question is where the cut off should occur for students in Adult ESL. > Should we have a cut off level, perhaps after intermediate, where those in > the free program enter the "for fee" programs, whether academic or > self-supporting? What about the refugee entitled to free English courses > who comes in at an advanced level? > > We are seeking to work out an articulation plan with the academic ESL > program here on campus as well as the new area that will be providing > "self-supporting" courses (those for nominal fees). > > Hoping to hear from those of you who have several different programs on > your campus and are tackling this articulation question. > > Thanks. > > Dawn Custalow Griffiths > Division Director of Adult ESL > Central Piedmont Community College > Charlotte, NC 28235 > > dawn_griffiths@cpcc.cc.nc.us
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