Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta5/980425bjb) with SMTP id CAA28991; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:59:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:59:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <002701bf3fc7$ac04c9e0$898f6dcb@computer> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Craig Wallace" <craigwal@ihug.com.au> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:3810] Re: academically bound X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: RO Content-Length: 1797 Lines: 36 And I tentatively agree with respect to Australian govenrment immigration policy too. Witness the current offerng of just 510 free hours of English tuition, plus the outrageously appalling paper-chase and further training overseas qualified doctors must endure to get registered here. Today's morning paper instanced a 7-yr process for one such. Cheers Craig Wallace ----- Original Message ----- From: Theresa Pruett-Said <pruetlst@martin.luther.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:13 AM Subject: [NIFL-ESL:3809] academically bound > My impression has always been that the US government is not really > interested in the upward mobility of immigrants in this country. It seems > like the US has a long history of expecting first generation immigrants to > do jobs at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder--and in fact this is why > some immigrants get visas to come--such as in the case of meat packing > plants. Thus I think that would explain why you don't see ABE > funding/categories for students who make the decision to continue with > academic studies. During a adult ed ESL training session I was even told > by the person who had me to train tutors that i was only supposed to focus > on survival English even though I knew some of the students were beyond > that point. She told me this because she felt her funding might be > jeopardized if it appeared we were doing more than that. I think this is > why you find at many community colleges that there are two streams--adult > ed ESL and academic or credit-bearing ESL. At some CC's the levels overlap > to some extent but at others the lower levels are ABE courses and the > higher levels are credit-bearing academically oriented courses. > > Terry Pruett-Said > >
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