Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta5/980425bjb) with SMTP id VAA19393; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:21:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:21:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <37FF87A0.8D3ED608@mail.utexas.edu> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Marianne Dryden <mdryden@mail.utexas.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:3852] Re: BEST survival levles X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) Status: RO Content-Length: 1181 Lines: 26 Thanks for your supportive feedback--especially, because of the learners' needs and secondarily, because of the frustration I have esperienced. In fact, ACTFL has been on my mind ever since I composed that message. I am going to see what light these standards may give to the confusion. fesharp@juno.com wrote: > I have also had some experience working in Adult ESL, and now work on the > Secondary level in a public high school.I also agree that the word, " > proficiency ,"is a problem.In my opinion, I would relate the definition > of the word "proficiency" to the ACTFL guidelines, which , in this case, > may make some sense. > > The term," Post Secondary," would mean that the student is > ,or should be ready to take on a high level, or a mainstream level of > English. On a community college level, It should refer to a basic low > -level English course. Indeed, these are way out of line for many L2 > Adults, whose level in ESL is not to be defined by their age or status. > It was prudent of you to point this out, because it becomes an issue for > administrators who are not familiar with these populations and these > differentials. > > > Fe Sharp
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