Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta5/980425bjb) with SMTP id LAA22125; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:37:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:37:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <19991228163142.24558.qmail@web906.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Jan Stotts <jdstotts@yahoo.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:3878] Re: ESL and Learning Disabilities X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO Content-Length: 3810 Lines: 131 Fe: For a long time, I have thought that these two fields have a lot to say to each other. I have a master's in TESL and then began working in adult ed and from there to close involvement with adults with LD. I see two main similarities between ESL students and adults with severe LD. Both may need to work on the sounds of the English language and how to discriminate among these sounds. Another strange similarity is that adults with severe LD don't seem at home in their own culture. They have trouble being culturally approriate in things such as personal space, appropriate conversation, getting jokes, etc in much the same way that ESL students who are new to the culture. I'm not sure that teaching them together is a good situation because I have never had any experience with that combination, but I think that the similarities should be explored for the sake of what they can tell us about teaching both populations. Jan Stotts --- JoAnn M Boss <esl108b@juno.com> wrote: > Collegues > I would hope the few students in Special Education > were > placed due to their iep not "Inclusion" law which > exists in your > school. > The department head of Special Ed should give you > some knowledgable > feedback on this idea, whether it is viable, and > what her opinions truly > are.In addition to advice about curriculum,etc. you > will save her a lot > of money. > > > > . > Rainman's worried > mom > > On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 18:44:25 -0500 (EST) > fesharp@juno.com writes: > >Dear Collegues, > > > > As a grateful subscriber to this > list-serv, I would like to > >wish > >Fran much luck in her new endeavors, and look > forward to her input, > >as > >always. > > > > I've mentioned to some before that I am > currently a teacher > >of > >ESL on the Secondary level in an urban high > school.I have had the > >opportunity to teach a few students in Special > Education who were > >placed > >in my classes due to the "Inclusion" law which > exists in our school > >system. Since I began interraction with Sped > teachers, I realized > >that > >there were some similarities between the materials > we use, and some > >of > >our teaching methodologies.Through a rather unique > series of > >circumstances, I was able to have an English > speaking Sped student > >participate in my ESL Language Arts Lab class, for > a short period of > >time. This boy was flunking his mainstream English > class, and felt > >quite > >comfortable in the ESL class where we were > beginning to read > >"Rainman". > >It occured to me that this might be something to > pursue, since the > >Sped > >teachers have begun borrowing my books, and have > shared the mutual > >interests we share in our respective arenas. I > broached the question > >of > >whether I might begin a pilot program for next year > for a class of > >high > >functioning Sped students and Intermediate-low > advanced ESL students. > >The > >department head of Special Ed has voiced her > interest in possibly > >joining > >me in this endeavor. I would like to ask if there > are any of my > >collegues > >who can give me some knowledgable feedback on this > idea, whether it > >is > >viable, and what your opinions truly are.In > addition, is there anyone > >who > >can give me any advice about curriculum,etc > > > > > > Looking forward to any and all > comments. > > > > > > > > > Fe Sharp > > > > > > > > > FeSharp@juno.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com
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