Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta5/980425bjb) with SMTP id LAA29900; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <s91fbfa7.085@epcc.edu> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Andres Muro" <AndresM@epcc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:4450] Civics grants, geography and process -Reply X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Status: O Content-Length: 2894 Lines: 67 Gail wrote: The Temple University grant, for example, is a network effort with partners in Chicago, Miami, Boston, San Francisco, and I believe two additional cities to be identified. Gail: Please correct me if I am wrong, since I don't have the RFP in front of me. However, I don't recall any mention in the RFP of formation of multistate partnerships. I believe that the main goal was for communities to develop service delivery models. Again, I could be wrong. Andres >>> gailw@sfsu.edu 05/13 12:31 pm >>> I'm losing track of which discussion is where .. I think the note below from Kathleen may be from the NLA list. In any case... One note to keep in mind about geography- is that although these grants may be made to a PI in a specific site, some of grantees may actually have partners around the country. The Temple University grant, for example, is a network effort with partners in Chicago, Miami, Boston, San Francisco, and I believe two additional cities to be identified. It will be interesting to see which (if any) of those funded projects that entail partnerships address some of the pressing needs identified on this list in the border states. Regarding process: I appreciate Janet Isserlis' comments from the perspective of a reviewer on process. To add my two cents, having been a reviewer myself on other federal proposals, I've seen the diversity of the reviewer pool, the many hours of work that goes into the process, and the strict attention given to codified procedure for tallying merit as defined in the grant guidelines (which, in my experience, sometimes did and sometimes did not work to the best end, depending on the knowledge, experience, and preparedness of the reviewers). So regardless of how I feel about the aprpropriateness of the grant set-aside (an issue raised by Bob Bickerton) or about the outcomes (who gets chosen), having been on the inside, I'm not suspicious of anything personal or shady in the process. Gail Weinstein At 11:18 AM 5/11/00 EDT, you wrote: > >Ref the programs chosen for EL Civics: Whatever happened to geographic >distribution? Nothing in Texas? Nothing on the border? The largest group >of immigrants to the U.S. are Mexican. Most go to California and Texas--only >one California program got funded and nothing in Texas. Are there >politics going on that we don't know about? Maybe in Nueva York? >Yes, I helped write a proposal, but I think these are legitimate questions >when the east coast power corridor (New York to Washington area) is the >recipient of the bulk of the funding. > >Kathleen Bombach _____________________________________________________________ "Serenity is not freedom from the storm; rather, it is calm within the storm". Gail Weinstein San Francisco State University English Department 123 Rivas Avenue San Francisco, CA 94132 phone: 415 334-8720 fax: 415 587-1010
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