Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f3JHuEg28214; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <01b601c0c8fa$4574de00$6501a8c0@pp200> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Dottie Shattuck" <dottie@shattuck.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:5835] Re: "Just in Time Civics" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 3034 Lines: 83 This is also a BIG problem in Charlotte, NC. Our huge Hispanic population is the target of a lot of muggings, robbery & assaults because their known to have cash, not bank accounts. How do we help? We discuss it in class, but bank accounts have fees as well as requiring a SS#. __ | \ |__ / ottie dottie@shattuck.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Seufert" <pseufert@msde.state.md.us> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: [NIFL-ESL:5833] Re: "Just in Time Civics" | A somewhat related story from Maryland. Some local banks will not open bank | accounts for people without social security cards. Thus, many immigrants | are using "check-cashing" busineses that charge for their services. So | there's a large population of immigrants walking around with lots of money | in their pockets (note they often share apartments and fear leaving the | money in the apartments). The end result is a significant amount of assault | and robbery in the neighborhood. All for the lack of a Social Security | Card! | | A community action group has worked with the local banks and have been | successful with one bank now opening accounts without social security card | numbers. | | I wish I were still in the classroom to work on the topic "social security" | -- it extends far beyond employment............ | | | Peggy Seufert | Maryland State Department of Education | 200 W. Baltimore Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 | 410-767-4150 | pseufert@msde.state.md.us | | -----Original Message----- | From: Susan Gaer [mailto:sgaer@yahoo.com] | Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:26 PM | To: Multiple recipients of list | Subject: [NIFL-ESL:5831] Re: "Just in Time Civics" | | | My scenario | In California you need a social security number to get | a driver license. Therefore many students drive | without licences. | | Here is the scenario: | A student is driving and a woman hits him. He has no | driver license so he pays for damages for her car. | Next he goes to court because he was driving | illegally. He gets off lightly with a 200 dollar fine | because his teacher writes a letter of support | claiming he is an upstanding citizen. | | This situation worked out ok for the student because | he knew how to use resources to help him. Although | from a safety standpoint it would be better for him | not to drive, that is not the reality. In Southern | California many many people are driving illegally. | What would be good to discuss is how to deal with | police officers, lawyers and judges in this type of | situation. | | BTW...I am not advocating that students drive with no | license, it is just the reality. | | ===== | Susan Gaer, Santa Ana College, School of Continuing Education | 2900 W Edinger Ave | Santa Ana, CA 92704 | (714)564-5016 | Fax: (714)434-7920 | | | __________________________________________________ | Do You Yahoo!? | Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices | http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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