Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f3KJ8sg11791; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE08907.95009F7A@accessatc.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "M. king-Johns" <mjohns@accessatc.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:5844] Re: X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) Status: O Content-Length: 3788 Lines: 83 I agree people should have driver license, but I disagree in the red tape that they foreigner has to go through just to have the privilege of driven a car to work. Their residence status or lack of security card should not be a barrier for a person to get a license and drive a car. Our country is full of rules and regulations than even the natives can not follow. People should be allow to drive a car to attend their daily business without so much harassment. I assited a Hispanic who was also hit by an American driver and damaged his car badly. The police report was filed and showed the American's driver fault. the Hispanic was given a ticket for not having a license. The native American failed to report the accident to his insurance hoping the case was forgotten. The Hispanic got a copy of the police report and with the name of insurance and telephone number, I went to the insurance office with the victim. They reocrded the accident with the police report. Tow weeks later the Hispanic received a check for the replacement of his car as it was beyond repair. My point is that we could help our students going an extra mile. the fact that he did not have a driver license did not have anything to do with the insurance obligation to pay for the claim. He paid his ticket, but recuperated money from his car. Social security card were not intended to be suse as an identification document. Some agencies have been using this to discriminate people and build barriers. The states are loosing a lot revenue by not issuing driver license to foreigners to drive a car to work or personal use. Nationality or legality in residentce does not to do with driving a car. this is my opnion and respect your opinion. I think we complicate our lives and others lives but so much red tape. We should be more practical. these people come here to work, contribute to our economic, and using the buying power. They do not come to kill or rob or hurt anybody. We all have foreign roots and should not forget that. resctr2@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > An upstanding citizen does not drive without a license. > It grieves my liberal heart to say so, but rules are rules. > And I think it is an injustice to delude our students otherwise. > > My 17 year old son realizes that a social security number is an inherent part of his membership in this community. As is his driver's license. > Isn't it our responsibility as teachers to extend that understanding to our students? > Gloria Gillette > > nifl-esl@nifl.gov wrote: > > My scenarioIn California you need a social security number to get > a driver license. Therefore many students drive > without licences. > > Here is the scenario: > A student is driving and a woman hits him. He has no > driver license so he pays for damages for her car. > Next he goes to court because he was driving > illegally. He gets off lightly with a 200 dollar fine > because his teacher writes a letter of support > claiming he is an upstanding citizen. > > This situation worked out ok for the student because > he knew how to use resources to help him. Although > from a safety standpoint it would be better for him > not to drive, that is not the reality. In Southern > California many many people are driving illegally. > What would be good to discuss is how to deal with > police officers, lawyers and judges in this type of > situation. > > BTW...I am not advocating that students drive with no > license, it is just the reality. > > ===== > Susan Gaer, Santa Ana College, School of Continuing Education > 2900 W Edinger Ave > Santa Ana, CA 92704 > (714)564-5016 > Fax: (714)434-7920 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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