[NIFL-ESL:5885] Re: The Scope of NIFL-ESL

From: Andres Muro (andresm.RGCAMPUS.EPCCRG@epcc.edu)
Date: Wed Apr 25 2001 - 12:21:29 EDT


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Richard wrote:

"I belong to other communities concerning ESL and this type of JUNK does not
appear in them. "

Richard:

Why do you think that immigration issues are junk??
By labeling something that you personally disagree with as junk does not make it bad. 
In terms of teaching ESL, exploring issues that relate to participants, and building language around those issues is a good thing, I think.

 Andres

>>> tenno1@worldnet.att.net 04/25/01 09:10AM >>>
I believe that Mr.. Kula and myself were the first to response to the
immigration thing wanting to know what it had to do with ESL.

I belong to other communities concerning ESL and this type of JUNK does not
appear in them.  I do believe that the monitor such has removed this subject
when it first arrived under their control and all of the "hate" addresses of
the different groups would not have been known by the rest of us.

It is bad enough to know that they even exist but to place them in an area
that is supposed to be visted by educated people and do what appears to me
as soliciting membership to one or more of them is outrageous to me.  That
is all I intend to say about this or any other subject like this one,

Monitor of the list, please do a better job next time.  Thank you. Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "MaryAnn Florez" <maryann@cal.org>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:26 PM
Subject: [NIFL-ESL:5875] The Scope of NIFL-ESL


> Dear NIFL-ESL Participants:
>
> The purpose of the NIFL-ESL discussion list is broadly defined
> in most of our materials.  Basically, it boils down to a single
> statement:  "Discussions [on NIFL-ESL] include such topics as
> instructional practices, program design, research, and policy."  Many of
> the NIFL discussion lists have statements that are similar to this one
> in their breadth, most likely to encourage the kind of
> participant-centered atmosphere that is valued in adult education.
> There are many issues that swirl around and into (depending on
> your perspective) the instruction that goes on in the adult ESL
> classroom.  The purposes of NIFL-ESL do not specifically include or
> exclude discussions of these issues.  It is largely shaped by the
> participants themselves.  I ( and I think many others) value the
> awareness-raising that the notices and discussions of such issues offer
> me, whether I ultimately chose to engage with the issues (as a list
> participant or as a teacher) or not.  However, it is important to
> conduct such discussions in a spirit of constructive debate and
> discovery, or they quickly lose their value for all involved.
>
> I have always felt that the spirit of the adult ESL field is one
> of inclusion and a striving for mutual respect of differences.  Let's
> hope that we can conduct our discussions on NIFL-ESL with a similar
> spirit.
>
> Thanks.
>
> MaryAnn
> NIFL-ESL Moderator
>
>



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