Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fAJFA9028344; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:10:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:10:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <001501c1710b$1a95fa20$cc01fea9@lvl> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Cindi Riley <lvl@hargray.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6732] Re: funders wanting measurements X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Status: O Content-Length: 2982 Lines: 83 What about goal-setting? Would your county look at how many learners had met certain goals? This is a better way to assess than a test, anyway. It would be similar to the certificate idea, but if a learner could document that he/she had met a goal, then that should be enough for a funder. For example, if the goal was to "increase contact with child's teacher" (an NRS goal), then a check sheet from a parent/teacher conference in a student's folder would provide documentation. We need to educate funders that tests are not the be-all and end-all of assessment. I have a goals assessment sheet that we have developed (English and Spanish) that I would be glad to share if anyone is interested. Reply here: lvl@hargray.com for a copy. ******************** Cindi Riley Assistant Director Literacy Volunteers of the Lowcountry 1403 Prince St. Beaufort, SC 29902 phone 843-525-6658 fax 843-521-1945 lvl@hargray.com -----Original Message----- From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Kimberley Kreeft Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 1:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6723] Re: funders wanting measurements Dear Linda, Thanks for the ideas here. I would still have trouble convincing the county that such tests/certification are valid enough for us to bill for them. The problem is a number of different agencies being funded by the County all have slightly different goals/schedules/target groups etc. and there is no standard curriculum or assessment done other than the mandated BEST test. So if we go with what you suggest here (which is what I suggested somewhat), we have maybe 100 teachers all devising their own tests that will result in a certificate. The County says that that is too subjective a measure to use for them to pay us all. --- LROWL6996@aol.com wrote: > Why don't you test in subject groups / topic groups? > Spend 2 weeks > practicing vocabulary and dialogues, reading and > writing, recognition and > recall in say ... the body (doctor's visits, > hospital needs, calling a child > off school, then writing the note). Once a topic is > managed well, give a > certificate. Then review once a week to keep the > vocabulary in use. Also > incorporate the vocabulary into the next 2 weeks > lessons. Perhaps you could > try money. How much does it cost to visit the > doctor? What did the hospital > bill say? Shopping,,,the apple costs 25 cents. You > want 12 apples. How > much do they cost? You give 2 apples to the doctor. > How many are left? > Simplistic yes. But, it is workable. > > Linda Rowland, Education Director > The International Center > W.K.R.M.A.A., Inc. > 806 Kenton Street > Bowling Green, KY 42101 > phone: 270-781-8336 > fax: 270-781-8136 > ===== Kimberley Kreeft Workplace ESOL Coordinator Community Refugee and Immigration Services __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com
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