Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fAJFZ0029622; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111191530.KAA23773@darkstar.qx.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: spencer@qx.net To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6733] Re: funders wanting measurements X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Status: O Content-Length: 3359 Lines: 92 > > From: Cindi Riley <lvl@hargray.com> > Date: 2001/11/19 Mon AM 10:09:57 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> > Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6732] Re: funders wanting measurements > > What about goal-setting? Would your county look at how many learners had met > certain goals? This is a better way to assess than a test, anyway. It would > be similar to the certificate idea, but if a learner could document that > he/she had met a goal, then that should be enough for a funder. For example, > if the goal was to "increase contact with child's teacher" (an NRS goal), > then a check sheet from a parent/teacher conference in a student's folder > would provide documentation. We need to educate funders that tests are not > the be-all and end-all of assessment. I have a goals assessment sheet that > we have developed (English and Spanish) that I would be glad to share if > anyone is interested. Reply here: lvl@hargray.com for a copy. > > ******************** > Cindi Riley > Assistant Director > Literacy Volunteers of the Lowcountry > 1403 Prince St. > Beaufort, SC 29902 > phone 843-525-6658 > fax 843-521-1945 > lvl@hargray.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Kimberley > Kreeft > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 1:16 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6723] Re: funders wanting measurements > > Dear Linda, Thanks for the ideas here. I would still > have trouble convincing the county that such > tests/certification are valid enough for us to bill > for them. The problem is a number of different > agencies being funded by the County all have slightly > different goals/schedules/target groups etc. and there > is no standard curriculum or assessment done other > than the mandated BEST test. So if we go with what > you suggest here (which is what I suggested somewhat), > we have maybe 100 teachers all devising their own > tests that will result in a certificate. The County > says that that is too subjective a measure to use for > them to pay us all. > > --- LROWL6996@aol.com wrote: > > Why don't you test in subject groups / topic groups? > > Spend 2 weeks > > practicing vocabulary and dialogues, reading and > > writing, recognition and > > recall in say ... the body (doctor's visits, > > hospital needs, calling a child > > off school, then writing the note). Once a topic is > > managed well, give a > > certificate. Then review once a week to keep the > > vocabulary in use. Also > > incorporate the vocabulary into the next 2 weeks > > lessons. Perhaps you could > > try money. How much does it cost to visit the > > doctor? What did the hospital > > bill say? Shopping,,,the apple costs 25 cents. You > > want 12 apples. How > > much do they cost? You give 2 apples to the doctor. > > How many are left? > > Simplistic yes. But, it is workable. > > > > Linda Rowland, Education Director > > The International Center > > W.K.R.M.A.A., Inc. > > 806 Kenton Street > > Bowling Green, KY 42101 > > phone: 270-781-8336 > > fax: 270-781-8136 > > > > > ===== > Kimberley Kreeft > Workplace ESOL Coordinator > Community Refugee and Immigration Services > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > >
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