[NIFL-ESL:6749] Re: Illiterate in primary language

From: libby adams (libbyadams@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 21 2001 - 18:38:18 EST


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To Betty and all,

I also teach in an ABE/ESL literacy program.  I've been collecting various 
flashcards and found the Flipping Phonics booklet.  Could you let me know 
which books/cards/materials/publishers have been helpful for you?  It sounds 
like we're in the same boat.

Libby Adams
ESOL/Literacy teacher
Hubbs Center
Minneapolis, MN


>From: Betty Stone <bjstone13@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6745] Re: Illiterate in primary language
>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:31:54 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>  No matter what text you might "adopt," don't forget the value of teaching 
>basic phonemic awareness to low literacy students: the sounds each letter 
>makes matched to the letters themselves, how letters blend (bl-, gl, pr-, 
>etc.) - in a nutshell, phonics. OUr program accomplishes this by creating 
>LOTS and LOTS of manipulatives: matching cards, exercises where learners 
>point to or show cards of letters that go with sounds, etc. Combined with 
>whole language activities that work on content relevant to adult learners' 
>needs, and depend a lot on context and often pictures, the learners start 
>to develop some literacy along with (usually more advanced) speaking 
>skills. New Readers PRess has aneat little aid called Flippin' Phonics 
>where students can flip to get different consonant-vowel -consonent 
>patterns.  Basic readings that focus on a pattern (e.g. short a) at a time 
>reinforce skills.
>In the end, there is an enormous amount of customizing that is necessary at 
>this level, and also, a recognition that if the learners don't already know 
>the sounds each of the letters in the English alphabet make, they must have 
>this down well (decoding) before they can learn to read for meaning 
>(comprehension).  ESOL training programs seem to be getting on the 
>bandwagon in this area, but for many decades they kind of assumed all 
>ESL/ESOL learners already "knew how to read."  With these learners, make no 
>assumptions...We've got to teach it all.  Have fun and find a ready (and 
>free) source of scrap paper at a local printer so you can make lots of 
>alphabet and sound pattern cards.
>Betty Stone
>   Corinne Moran <cmoranmv@gis.net> wrote: Amy
>Thank you. I'll send for the Longman text. Happy Thanksgiving.
>Corinne Moran
>
>
>----------
> >From: "Amy Finch"
> >To: Multiple recipients of list
> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6741] Re: Illiterate in primary language
> >Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2001, 11:46 PM
> >
>
> > Hi Corinne,
> >
> > My experience is similar to Dottie's -- many of my students are
> > pre-literate. My program uses the Longman ESL Literacy text. Using this
> > text in conjunction with a picture dictionary has worked very well for 
>my
> > classes. Good luck!
> >
> > Amy Finch
> > Minneapolis Public Schools Adult Basic Ed
> > amyeff@worlnet.att.net
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Corinne Moran
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:46 AM
> > Subject: [NIFL-ESL:6736] Illiterate in primary language
> >
> >
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> >> I coordinate our volunteer ESL program. We have a man in his forties 
>who
> >> speaks no English and cannot read or write in his native language
> >> (Portuguese).
> >> Our tutors are not trained to teach reading, and others who can teach
> >> reading are not trained in ESL.
> >> I don't know yet whether there is a problem like dyslexia etc. I 
>believe
> > it
> >> is best to teach an adult non-reader in his primary language, but he 
>needs
> >> survival English.
> >> I assume he's gotten this far by using other senses. Using aural/oral
> >> techniques, dialogues, TPR, pictures, music etc. we should be able to 
>help
> >> him communicate, but what about the reading/writing?
> >> Anyone with experience?
> >> Corinne Moran
> >> ESL Coordinator, Martha's Vineyard Volunteers for Literacy
> >> cmoranmv@gis.net
> >>
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> >> speaks no English and cannot read or write in his native language
>
> >> (Portuguese).
>
> >> Our tutors are not trained to teach reading, and others who can teach
>
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>
> >> I don't know yet whether there is a problem like dyslexia etc.  I
> > beli=
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> > needs<=
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> >> survival English.
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>
> >> techniques, dialogues, TPR, pictures, music etc. we should be able to
> > help<=
> >> BR>
> >> him communicate, but what about the reading/writing?
>
> >> Anyone with experience?
>
> >> Corinne Moran
>
> >> ESL Coordinator, Martha's Vineyard Volunteers for Literacy
>
> >> cmoranmv@gis.net
>
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>Betty J. Stone
>ESOL Program Administrator
>SCALE - Somerville Center for Adult Learning Experiences
>167 Holland Street, Somerville, MA  02144
>Phone: 617-625-6600, Ext. 6933
>FAX:   617-623-8528
>bjstone13@yahoo.com
>
>
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