Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g99Ew7X18216; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <NOBBIHJDOLAGFHHOGDIOGEBDCDAA.Wendt@axp.winnefox.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Amanda Wendt <Wendt@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8152] Re: Phoneme-Schoneme X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Status: O Content-Length: 2564 Lines: 77 Yay, Heather! -----Original Message----- From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Susan Ryan Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8151] Re: Phoneme-Schoneme I agree. >From: "Bloor, Heather" <Heather.Bloor@ywcamilw.org> >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8139] Re: Phoneme-Schoneme >Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:39:59 -0400 (EDT) > >I have to say that at first this was mildy interesting but now it is >annoying. My students don't care about the difference between thigh and >thy. They are happy to learn the word leg and this part so they can show >the doctor where it hurts. > >How many of us have taught Thisledew in the last 6 months? > >Can we please discuss things that are worthy of our attention becuase the >topic are worthy to our students. I for one think that conversations about >how open enrollment effects class or how to teach students who are not >literate in their primary language would help me do my job. These phoneme >conversations just give me something to delete from my email. > >Heather Bloor >ESL Instructor Specialist >YWCA of Greater Milwaukee > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jean Fahey [mailto:ffahey@adelphia.net] >Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:31 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8137] Re: Phoneme-Schoneme > > >Also, Thigh/Thy and Thistledew and This'll do are also semantic >differences. I think identifying phonemes is important to distinguish >sounds but reading doesn't obviously stop there. I do,however,still >defend my position that all parts work together....... >Thanks for listening, >An Esol Teacher trying "everything that works." >Jean Fahey > >DonMcCabe@aol.com wrote: > > > > Charles, > > > > You could have made the test a bit easier. How many phonemes in bat, >bats, > > prints, and prince? I say 3, 3, 5, and 5, but I know professional >linguists > > are not close to 100% agreement with me or with themselves. While we're > > there, This'll do / thistle dew and thy thigh demonstrate a phonemic > > difference between the voiced and unvoiced /th/. :-) > > > > Don McCabe, Research Director > > AVKO Dyslexia Research Foundation > > 3084 W. Willard Road, Suite W > > Clio, MI 48420 > > Phone: (810) 686-9283 FAX: (810) 686-1101 > > Visit our website at www.avko.org _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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