Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h21EUZP02018 for <nifl-esl@nifl.gov>; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from udel.edu ([128.175.82.133]) by copland.udel.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h21EUYRq006216 for <nifl-esl@nifl.gov>; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:30:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E60C384.24869A9D@udel.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:28:20 -0500 From: Ken Todd <kentodd@UDel.Edu> Organization: University of Delaware X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8690] Re: Re: dynamics of this list References: <20030301115801.51497.qmail@web40705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANG X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.29 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Status: O Content-Length: 3259 Lines: 78 The question of oil concerns long term strategic control rather than immediate prices. A government with control over state-owned oil resources could withhold those supplies as a means to securing its own national interests. Privatized oil (an unspoken but safe to assume long-term US/EU/Japan goal) in a country with a client government guarantees uninterrupted supplies as well as a greater U.S./EU/Japan influence on levels of production/price. Of course, interests not solely derived from oil figure largely in the prosecution of this war, but they do not seem to me to lend themselves to a pro-American argument. The military strategy document prepared by experts from Bush's political circle before he was elected twice explicitly addresses the need to invade Iraq. It proposes one, and only one, reason. The development of Iraqi weapons (please note, not the weapons it currently has) would provide a deterrent to American intervention in the region. Thus, the war aims to enforce the general principle that no country has the right to means of defense against American intervention. (Please remember, this claim comes directly from the Bush document. If anyone finds it distasteful, direct your comments to the president, not to me). Of course, the choice of a site on which to demonstrate this principle is heavily influenced by the presence there of massive oil reserves. marlene smith wrote: > > Actually, I was hoping to get some Pro-American stuff > on this list. I haven't seen any yet. > > Part of my mandate is 'settlement' and Anti-American > sentiment based on untruths is not conducive to a > 'happy' life in Canada. > > So far I have been able to supply facts which cause > these students to rethink their negative attitudes but > I do not have the knowledge I should to answer the > 'oil' issue some Arabic students keep bringing up. > > How could it be about oil? Aren't the prices fixed > and what would bombing do for oil except increases our > prices as just the talk of it has already > significantly done so in Canada? > > Isn't is part of our responsibility to attempt to > diffuse potentially dangerous hatreds or at least not > add fuel to the fire? > > Marlene Smith > ESL Teacher > Ontario, Canada > > --- Charles Jannuzi <b_rieux@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It is regrettable that any attempt to discuss > > serious issues with political and social > > implications are censored on this > > list--censorship arising from the concerns of a > > handful of conservative and religious crybabies. > > It is hypocritical of the list owner and > > moderator to criticize anyone for substantive but > > challenging posts, when all such criticism does > > is cater to the very clique that has constantly > > initiated the personal attacks. In short, this > > list is now a repressive wasteland, like much of > > the political and social climate of the current > > US. > > > > Charles Jannuzi > > Fukui, Japan > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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