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From: Antje Meissner <antjemeissner@yahoo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9309] Re: Accept English Only donation?
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Hello,
I am from Florida too. Last time I talked to my
teacher friends in Miami, they had very long waiting
lists for their adult ESOL classes and I heard them
complain about funding cuts by the state, so that they
have to send more and more students away.
<< Welcome to America.
> > Do what u like.
> > We'll give u tax dollar
As a tax paying immigrant, I take offense in this
"poem". And I think you know that you are wrong, or
you would have added some facts that prove your point.
Antje Meissner
--- ttweeton <ttweeton@comcast.net> wrote:
> Welcome to America.
> > Do what u like.
> > We'll give u tax dollar.
> >
> > Xenophillically
>
> Joe you are so funny.! I am in agreement with what
> you say. The issue of
> Bilingual programs ( or not) IS a problem for the
> children, but a most
> irritating situation is the immigrant (parents of
> those children??) who
> comes here and decides that it is not necessary to
> learn English( or ver y
> little of it ) because he/she can get along pretty
> well (particularly in
> Miami ) without it! AND finds all kinds of
> government help in his/her native
> language just as you stated ( so why learn English
> if you don't have to!!!!)
> If you are from Miami you know this but when you
> call govt. offices here,
> the first language spoken when answering the phone
> is Spanish. I
> personally speak Spanish AND French AND Italian
> etc...., no problem,
> BUT...... how presumptious of these people to think
> that I will
> automatically understand what they are saying!!!! In
> this case, with these
> govt agencies English MUST and should be spoken ,
> AND come first! I ,as
> a taxpayer, pay their salaries and have a right to
> expect that I will be
> helped in "correctly and clearly spoken "English
> FIRST. To speak in Spanish
> first , only intimidates me, as Mrs Consumer. I also
> have rights as a
> consumer . How can they possibly know who is at the
> other end of the line??
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Little" <
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:48 PM
> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9300] Re: Accept English Only
> donation?
>
>
> > > One suggestion would be for students to
> investigate the group (as an
> > > exercise). Financials should be public, as are
> mission statements,
> etc.
> > > See what percentage of their budget goes for
> ESL. There is no paucity
> of
> > > newspaper articles at relatively easy reading
> levels that go into an
> array
> > > of issues and cases associated with English
> Only. Some go into
> employees
> > > suing employers for their right to speak their
> native language on the
> job; others
> > > tell the exact opposite. And of course,
> English Only's strong
> connection to
> > > right wing, anti-immigrant forces are well
> documented and easy to
> understand.
> >
> > Laurie, Cathy, and all,
> >
> > I love the idea of investigating the financial
> statement and mission
> statement of the English Only organization. That's
> clear,factual stuff.
> Many folks-- present company excluded, hopefully --
> would stear clear of
> that, opting instead for liberal-rant, leftist-
> > rave articles from our libero-centric friends in
> the media.
> >
> > > That the group approached you with the
> unabashed intention to use their
> > > donation as a PR stint to push "their"
> political agenda reminds me of a
> > > slogan on a t-shirt complete w/caps and
> exclamation points I saw just
> last
> > > weekend in NJ: "Welcome to America. Now SPEAK
> ENGLISH!!!!!" As ESL
> > > professionals, we know that the bottom line is
> xenophobia.
> >
> > Bottom line of what? That slogan? Produced by
> whom? Probably the vast
> left-wing conspiracy...but seriously, the t-shirt u
> saw reminds me of a
> haiku i read not three
> > hours ago:
> >
> >,
> >
> > sincerely,
> >
> > Joe
> >
>
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