Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i2HCHgI04985; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:17:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:17:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20040317121326.97793.qmail@web11008.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Ujwala Samant <lalumineuse@yahoo.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10072] Re: [adult ed ESL requirements X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Content-Length: 2527 Lines: 86 Dear Olivia, You've brought up something that I've long been thinking and saying. Certification at all bureaucratic levels means K-12. To be a true teacher, K-12 is seen as the golden fleece. Adult education has not the same privileged status as K-12. Please understand that I do not mean to demean K-12 certification. I think it's very necessary for the population it serves. But NOT for adults. Someone like you would be a great asset to any adult ed ESOL programme. good luck, Ujwala Samant --- olivia durham <odurham@integrity.com> wrote: > I think some of the vitriol surrounding the > "certification" issue comes from > the narrow perameters of the Public School > Certification process in the > United States. > > I beg excuse to use myself as an example. MA in > Linguistics with a > Certificate in ESL (from an English Dept.). I am > qualified to > 1. Go overseas and teach fulltime, which I did for a > while. > 2. Teach as an adjunct at the university level -- > part time, no benefits, > we've been down this road recently in this list so > let's not open this up > again.(have done this, in native speaking and > non-native speaking classes) > 3. Teach Adult ESL any level in most states (like > this but no current > openings in my new state) (ibid on the part time, no > benefits, etc.) > > What bothers me is that because my course work in > Methods and Materials in > ESL, the teaching of writing, including a full > semester teaching practicum, > happened within the English rather than the > Education department of my > university, my transcripts come back as having "no > education credentials." > i.e. not applicable to the K-12 setting. > > I will forsake the griping except to say that we all > hear from time to time > about the terrible shortage of qualified teachers > nationwide, continuing to > grow. I feel that the NEA's inflexible requirements > for certification are > the main reason for this. > > I realize there is no use asking the world to turn > to my tune, so I submit > this request for practical advice: > Is anyone qualified to offer advice, resources, or > personal histories about > the shortest route to certification within the K-12 > system in their state? > I would love to teach ESL one of the local school > districts. > > I would be grateful, > > Olivia Durham > > Currently teaching music part time (!) in Central > VT. > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com
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