Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i2HEg2I10225; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:42:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:42:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7C5270AC667E0C4381DB9DF6D9293B4643BA6F@mail.sunygenesee.cc.ny.us> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Sandoval, Krysta" <KSandoval@GENESEE.suny.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10081] Re: [adult ed ESL requirements X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Status: O Content-Length: 3134 Lines: 78 Olivia, In the state of NY, it is possible to get certification through "alternative pathways." We have BOCES centers with teacher certification officers (hope that was the right title) who can evaluate your transcripts and tell you what you are missing (how you "fall short.") I imagine there may be a parallel system in your state. Try approaching a friendly school principal or your state certification office to seek out where you would find a "certification officer." They provide this advice for free at my local BOCES, but if you approach NY state directly, there is a $50.00 charge to file and get an answer - or at least that's how things were a few years ago. Best wishes! Krysta Banke Sandoval, M.S. Ed. TESOL Academic Advisement and Support, Distance Learning Genesee Community College One College Road Batavia, NY 14020-9704 Direct: (585) 343-0055 x6158 Fax: (585) 343-0433 www.genesee.edu/dl -----Original Message----- From: ttweeton@comcast.net [mailto:ttweeton@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:31 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10078] Re: [adult ed ESL requirements If you teach k-12 you wil get benefits in our state of Florida. If you choose to work with adults you will not get them. What is your choice??!! Tanya Tweeton ESOL and GED Fort Lauderdale, Florida > I think some of the vitriol surrounding the "certification" issue comes from > the narrow perameters of the Public School Certification process in the > United States. > > I beg excuse to use myself as an example. MA in Linguistics with a > Certificate in ESL (from an English Dept.). I am qualified to > 1. Go overseas and teach fulltime, which I did for a while. > 2. Teach as an adjunct at the university level -- part time, no benefits, > we've been down this road recently in this list so let's not open this up > again.(have done this, in native speaking and non-native speaking classes) > 3. Teach Adult ESL any level in most states (like this but no current > openings in my new state) (ibid on the part time, no benefits, etc.) > > What bothers me is that because my course work in Methods and Materials in > ESL, the teaching of writing, including a full semester teaching practicum, > happened within the English rather than the Education department of my > university, my transcripts come back as having "no education credentials." > i.e. not applicable to the K-12 setting. > > I will forsake the griping except to say that we all hear from time to time > about the terrible shortage of qualified teachers nationwide, continuing to > grow. I feel that the NEA's inflexible requirements for certification are > the main reason for this. > > I realize there is no use asking the world to turn to my tune, so I submit > this request for practical advice: > Is anyone qualified to offer advice, resources, or personal histories about > the shortest route to certification within the K-12 system in their state? > I would love to teach ESL one of the local school districts. > > I would be grateful, > > Olivia Durham > > Currently teaching music part time (!) in Central VT. > > >
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