Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i3111Um22729; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:01:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:01:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2F703FFB.1F7229C9.0AB94E44@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AndresMuro@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10182] Re: layers of meaning X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Status: O Content-Length: 4052 Lines: 107 Ageist? My step daughter just dyed her hair turquoise. before that it was orange, and then green. Andres In a message dated 3/31/2004 5:59:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Bonnie Odiorne" <bonniesophia@adelphia.net> writes: >Hey, Andres, watch it with those purple haired ladies--ageist!! And what >about those of us who are visually impaired and don't drive--or those of >them (?!) who drive and shouldn't? :-) >Warmest Regards, >Bonnie Odiorne Ph.D >Program Faciliator >Working Smart >Computers 4 Kids >Silas Bronson Library Information Technology Center >Waterbury, CT >Integrating Technology, ABE and ESL Instruction > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of >AndresMuro@aol.com >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:47 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10167] Re: layers of meaning > > >Hey, according to the adult literacy survey, there are an estimated 90 >million adults who score in the two lowest literacy levels. about 50 million >scoring in the lowest. this is about one fifth to a third of the adult >population, and I am sure that a lot of them drive. there are a lot of >teenagers who drive, and they may lack literacy skills, and they are also >"teenagers" so, we live in a world of danger. > >I live in el paso a community with one of the lowest literacy skills in the >country, but I am not afraid of driving. I am really not afraid of >immigrants or people with low literacy skills. a lot of them are excellent >drivers. I am bothered by people driving 55 in the left lane in big SUVs >while talking on their cell phones, and by those who think that they have to >hog the leftlane and go 60 or below. BTW, I do hate SUVs, they waste gas and >they are a greater danger than other vehicles. Unfortunately some people use >immigrants as scapegoats and fear them. The same people usually tend to fear >blacks and other minorities too. > >In el paso, 80% of the poplation is of mexican origin or ancestry. >interestingly, it is one of the safest big cities in the United States next >to Sacramento another city with mostly mexican immigrants or their >decendents. so, I am certainly glad that I live here, even though many >people are immigrants, don't speak english and have limited literacy skills. >The likelyhood of getting run over by some jerk in a hummer while on his >cellphone, or a purple hair lady in her cadillac is a lot less in El Paso >than in other communities. > > >Andres > >In a message dated 3/31/2004 2:28:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, Albert Wat ><ayw@georgetown.edu> writes: > >>I hate to drag this topic out even more, but I really don't think it's >>appropriate to compare non-English speakers/readers who drive to >>Alzheimber's patients who drive. There are a lot of other non-written >>cues that we all use as drivers on the road. There are reasons why >>signs are made with specific colors and shapes. I have an uncle who >>spoke and read little English, and he was navigating the roads of L.A. a >>lot better than my father, who has a master's degree in British >>Literature. In fact, he taught my father how to drive and helped me get >>his license when my father moved to the States from Hong Kong! >> >>I, for one, would be more fearful of giant SUVs on the road! >> >>- Albert >> >>Edith Fensom wrote: >> >>>I have to agree with the original poster about the safety of people >driving >>>when they can't read the signs. I don't think I am being racist when I say >>>this. It's a similar situation to when my mother-in-law was in the early >>>stages of Alzheimer's and still driving. Scary. I realize that reading and >>>driving are two different skills but do think you need to be able to react >>>quickly when necessary. >>> >>>On the other hand I realize how important and necessary a driver's license >>>is to live and work in America. It's a difficult situation. >>> >>>Edith >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html > > > -- go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html
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