[NIFL-FAMILY:1211] Re: Clips and Cross Posts

From: Albert Wat (ayw@georgetown.edu)
Date: Tue Jul 02 2002 - 18:22:37 EDT


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While vouchers are not directly related to this listserv, I feel compelled to
respond after reading Ms. Narumanchi-Jackson's response to the voucher decision
by the Supreme Court.

While I certainly understand the plight of families who feel "trapped" in a poor
public school system, vouchers remain a band-aid solution that has yet to prove
its effectiveness.  So the question for me is, do we invest all our energy and
resources on this type of solution or do we really take a hard look at how we,
as a people, value education (in terms of, yes, dollars) relative to other
"needs" in our society and put our money where our mouth is?

Here are some more specific points that I'd like to add to the conversation:

First off is the separation of church and state... But let's leave that aside
for now, since many people seem to think that it's much too academic a point to
bring up when children are suffering.  (For some reason, I don't think we would
think this issue is too academic if we were talking about schools that teach the
principles of fundamental Islam (or socialism, communism) to its children.)

The cost of vouchers is usually not enough to pay for most private schools.  So,
a voucher program would allow some families to find a better school, but to
borrow the phrase, leave others behind.  And arguably those are the families who
would benefit most.

Also, the gas station analogy that the Ms. Narumanchi-Jackson uses assumes two
things.  (1) There's a supply of quality schools out there.  Usually in urban
areas where these vouchers are supposed to be the savior, there may be a handful
that the public would consider "quality."  They may be able to take some more
new students, but they are defnitely not able to take a large number of
students.  (Even if the school administrators are willing, the parents there
will likely put up a fight.)  (2) The analogy assumes that everyone has the
capacity to physically transport their kids to these better schools (as if they
can just cross the street to another gas station).  Again, we are leaving a lot
of families behind with this strategy.

The writer also thinks that we should follow the model of higher education in
the US, where we essentially (at least in the more elite institutions) compete
for students.  I'm not sure if that's a great model either since data is showing
that the rate of college attendance between tne poor and well-to-do is growing.

Finally, the writer states that "*We* in adult education see the results of the
current education system."   I'd just like to reiterate that the quality of
schools is a reflection of our national investment in education and family
welfare in disinvested communities.

I hope this hasn't been too much of a rant, but I just feel that any
unadulterated support for vouchers needs to be re-examined.  Yes, reform is
necessary.  No doubt.  And *maybe* we need a temporary fix like vouchers or
choice for the most desperate families.  But let's invest in long-term solutions
as well.

Thanks for listening.

--

Albert Wat, Program Coordinator
DC Schools Project
Office of Volunteer & Public Service - Center for Social Justice
Georgetown University, Poulton Hall
1421 37th St., NW, 1st Floor
Washington, DC 20057
Tel: (202)687-8868  Fax: (202)687-8980

Varshna Narumanchi-Jackson wrote:

> Mr. Lee,
>
> I am pleased with the Supreme Court's decision.  Unlike the public school
> system, when a charter school or a private school (religious or otherwise)
> fails to educate its student body, parents may choose to enroll their
> students elsewhere.  I have never met parents who enjoy chasing failure.
>
> In Texas, there has been much controversy over the performance of several
> charter schools. The issues have ranged from mismanagement of funds to low
> performance (of students) when measured against state-mandated standards.
> These schools have either been closed and their charter revoked or the
> schools have been placed under the supervision of a "master".
>
> Close a school because it fails to educate its student body!  What a novel
> idea!  Teachers and administrators having to prove their worth?  Astounding!
> This is not the failure of the charter system: it is the intended result!
>
> If your neighborhood gas station charged $4 per gallon for regular unleaded
> that you could get elsewhere for $2, how long would it stay in business?
> Wouldn't you even feel pleased that for $3, you could afford the super
> unleaded at a competitor's pump? And once you became a regular user of super
> unleaded, how long would it be before you started looking at other
> performance-related issues that affect your decision to keep buying super
> unleaded?  Isn't that what an educated consumer does?
>
> If we are in this business to produce an educated student, then we should
> follow the example set in higher education: compete for students and
> resources (including faculty).
>
> While it is noble to pursue policies with "the children" in mind, it is
> ignoble to keep producing students bound for remedial reading and writing
> classes, adult basic education programs, and adult literacy programs.  *We*
> in adult education see the results of the current education system.
>
> Thank you and have a GREAT day. vnj



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