[NIFL-FOBASICS:251] Re: Spring is here?

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Hi, Rose Drill-Peterson,
I am interested in reading your dissertation.  Is that possible?  We, at
Portland Community College, have been struggling with the persistence issue
for
years.  One of my goals as Manager of the ABE/GED program is to "DO something
about it, instead of just TALK about it."  Thanks for any information you may
have.

Linda Neill
Portland Community College


At 10:02 PM 5/24/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Persistence is a complicated issue.  The BASICS issue raises some excellent 
>points, goal development is crucial, however, for some students this must be 
>done in a context of a community of learners. 
>     I completed a dissertation in 1998 on the experiences of Women in 
>Louisiana seeking a GED. Persistence became a central theme.  For the 
>population I studied, the ability to develop a relationship with the
teacher, 
>school and/or program was the most important variable to persistence.  Even 
>when family emergencies occurred, it was a teacher who pulled them back to 
>the school/program after the crisis had passed.  Some of the women had begun 
>and ended 5 and 6 adult programs.  For this population, the relationship 
>preceded the goal development. 
>
>Another finding showed, similar to the article, hat the ability to integrate 
>a GED program into a vocational program is powerful.  One of the study sites 
>was a private proprietary school (cosmetology).  It was very effective for 
>students who had been unsuccessful in more traditional adult education 
>programs.  Students developed professional relationships with instructors 
>around hair which extended to academic subjects. The small student body also 
>created a community which was important to them.   
>
>For the students in my study, the way school "made them feel" determined 
>persistence-whether they dropped out or stuck it out. The relationships
began 
>in high school and continued throughout their school careers. 
>
>Rose Drill-Peterson
>New Orleans Public Schools 
>
> 
> 



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Linda S. Neill, ABE/GED Manager
Adult Basic Skills Program, Portland Community College
Southeast Center - SE 111
2850 S.E. 82nd Avenue
Portland, OR  97266
(503) 788-6263     FAX: (503) 788-6247
E-Mail: lneill@pcc.edu
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<html><div>Hi, Rose Drill-Peterson,</div>
<div>I am interested in reading your dissertation.&nbsp; Is that
possible?&nbsp; We, at Portland Community College, have been struggling
with the persistence issue for years.&nbsp; One of my goals as Manager of
the ABE/GED program is to &quot;DO something about it, instead of just
TALK about it.&quot;&nbsp; Thanks for any information you may
have.</div>
<br>
<div>Linda Neill</div>
<div>Portland Community College</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>At 10:02 PM 5/24/00 -0400, you wrote:</div>
<div>&gt;Persistence is a complicated issue.&nbsp; The BASICS issue
raises some excellent </div>
<div>&gt;points, goal development is crucial, however, for some students
this must be </div>
<div>&gt;done in a context of a community of learners. </div>
<div>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I completed a dissertation in 1998 on
the experiences of Women in </div>
<div>&gt;Louisiana seeking a GED. Persistence became a central
theme.&nbsp; For the </div>
<div>&gt;population I studied, the ability to develop a relationship with
the teacher, </div>
<div>&gt;school and/or program was the most important variable to
persistence.&nbsp; Even </div>
<div>&gt;when family emergencies occurred, it was a teacher who pulled
them back to </div>
<div>&gt;the school/program after the crisis had passed.&nbsp; Some of
the women had begun </div>
<div>&gt;and ended 5 and 6 adult programs.&nbsp; For this population, the
relationship </div>
<div>&gt;preceded the goal development. </div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;Another finding showed, similar to the article, hat the ability
to integrate </div>
<div>&gt;a GED program into a vocational program is powerful.&nbsp; One
of the study sites </div>
<div>&gt;was a private proprietary school (cosmetology).&nbsp; It was
very effective for </div>
<div>&gt;students who had been unsuccessful in more traditional adult
education </div>
<div>&gt;programs.&nbsp; Students developed professional relationships
with instructors </div>
<div>&gt;around hair which extended to academic subjects. The small
student body also </div>
<div>&gt;created a community which was important to them.&nbsp;&nbsp;
</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;For the students in my study, the way school &quot;made them
feel&quot; determined </div>
<div>&gt;persistence-whether they dropped out or stuck it out. The
relationships began </div>
<div>&gt;in high school and continued throughout their school careers.
</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;Rose Drill-Peterson</div>
<div>&gt;New Orleans Public Schools </div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt; </div>
&gt; 
<br>

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Southeast Center - SE 111<br>
2850 S.E. 82nd Avenue<br>
Portland, OR&nbsp; 97266<br>
(503) 788-6263&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FAX: (503) 788-6247<br>
E-Mail: <b>lneill@pcc.edu<br>
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