Return-Path: <nifl-fobasics@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id hBCDU8m08304; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:30:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:30:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <48D43FA7.10C1013C.0AB94E44@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-fobasics@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-fobasics@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-fobasics@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AndresMuro@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-fobasics@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:895] RE: About Focus on Basics X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Status: O Content-Length: 6645 Lines: 155 Hi Nhi. for your info, there are several discussion groups that are part of the same family. One is the NIFL Health discussion group. It tries to connect health topics to adult education and is concerned with how to facilitate adults becaming more knowledable about their health, etc. Since you are into pharmacy, you may be interested in that particular group. They have discussed in the past how to make patients better readers of prescriptions provided by their doctors, and how patients can advocate for their own health better. BTW, these are things that the Pfizer Foundation, and Pfizer Inc promote. Pfizer has been trying to promote health literacy has tried to work with adult educators. Andres In a message dated 12/12/2003 7:31:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Le, Nhi" <Nhi.Le@pfizer.com> writes: >Mary Jo, thank you so much for giving me the background of this organization >and the purpose of the emails. > >I am a manager of learning and development for a pharmaceutical company. My >formal training is in adult learning and use it daily in the workplace as it >relates to training, learning and development. > >Thanks again for letting me know what this forum is used for - I am now very >curious and will stay on the mailing list in hopes of constantly learning >and keeping myself up to date with trends. > >Nhi > >-----Original Message----- >From: Maralit, Mary Jo [mailto:MaryJo.Maralit@ed.gov] >Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:05 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:893] RE: About Focus on Basics > > >Nhi, > >The Focus on Basics electronic discussion list is facilitated by the >National Center for the Study of Adult Learning and Literacy (NCSALL) >through the National Institute for Literacy http://www.nifl.gov. This list >is designed to provide a forum for discussion about the articles published >in the National Center for the Study of Adult Learning and Literacy's >(NCSALL) quarterly publication -- Focus on Basics. For more information, go >to: >http://www.nifl.gov/lincs/discussions/nifl-fobasics/about_nifl-fobasics.html >. > >To unsubscribe, go to: >http://www.nifl.gov/lincs/discussions/nifl-fobasics/focus_on_basics.html and >click on the UNSUBSCRIBE button on the left navigation bar and enter your >email address when prompted. The messages posted to this list are archived >on this page as well. [Read Posted Messages-2003]. > >Regards, >Jo > >*** TELL US HOW YOU USE LINCS *** >Jo Maralit >National Institute for Literacy, LINCS http://www.nifl.gov/lincs/ >Email: mmaralit@nifl.gov > >-----Original Message----- >From: Le, Nhi [mailto:Nhi.Le@pfizer.com] >Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:38 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:887] RE: Managing Statistics/Teaching to the t > > >I've asked someone on this mailing list to give me more information on what >this organization is; however he did not respond. > >How can I get off this mailing list? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nixon S. Griffis [mailto:ngriffis@bellsouth.net] >Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:871] RE: Managing Statistics/Teaching to the >test > > >Welcome to the wonderful world of education Mr. Boone. Teaching to the test >is more and more part of the curriculum by necessity for many teachers. > >Suggestion 1. Duplicate each question couching that question in different >forms. Make twenty examples of such a question. Then drill your students >over and over again until each student is capable of answering that >question. Math and language are the easiest to accomplish. Usage, grammar >mechanics, math solutions are logical and can be set out in rule form. >Reading is much more difficult because of the subtle skills needed to be >developed over long terms of time in order to build comprehension and speed. >See suggestion 2. for Reading. Oh yes, because you will have M(6-7grade), >D(8-10)and A(11-12) level students you will need to have three sets of >curriculum. > >Suggestion 2. Go through the TABE test and pick out keywords and words that >are at a level that indicates to you that your students need to see their >definitions. Teach those words to your students. It will amaze you how >easily you can spot these words after working with your students for a bit >of time. > > Reading's largest factor, after being able to call words, is made up >of our >ability to give our minds the proper definition of words that are being used >in the text. This is meekly known as vocabulary, these days. TABE can only >choose a small fraction of vocabulary and keywords in its' tests. That, I >believe, is why reading assessment tests are so inept at showing progress. >The odds are infinitely small, given the number of words in our language, >that your students will have looked up the words contained in the test. > > We are still in such a state of development on this subject that I >do not >even think anyone has made an official ruling as to if teaching the specific >vocabulary of the TABE is allowed. > > Anyone out there know about this issue? > >-----Original Message----- >From: nifl-fobasics@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-fobasics@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of >Richard T. Boone >Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:36 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:869] Managing Statistics > > > > >I run a small computerized Workplace Literacy lab and have several >questions. >I hope I may receive some feedback on the following topics. > >1) Students are referred to me for a 30-60 day time period to "bring >their >scores up", so they may enter some form of training. What would be >considered a normative increase in TABE scores for students averaging 20 >hours a week in the lab? >I do realize that "I am teaching to the TABE", but I see no alternative >given the short time periods. > 2) Every 50 hours I am supposed to retest students giving the >complete TABE battery. Several students will drop out right after retesting; >they know they have done poorly even before the tests are scored. How do you >deal with this problem? > >2) I am highly dependant on state, labor and county officials for >referrals. >It appears that their job criteria demand that data management is the >overriding concern. The "goals" of students must be met at close to a 100% >success rate, so data must be managed to accomplish this success rate. How >do others deal with this? > > > > >________________________________________________________________ >Sent via the Vineland WebMail system at vineland.org > > > > -- go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html
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