[NIFL-FOBASICS:1177] Re: division PowerPoint

From: Mary Lou Friedline (friedlin@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Nov 19 2004 - 18:27:02 EST


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From: "Mary Lou Friedline" <friedlin@comcast.net>
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David,

I didn't send the link as an endorsement but as an avenue that may
provide other ways of instruction for both ABE/GED/Remedial students as
well as for instructors.

Although the content may appear less suitable for adults, I feel that it
is important provide a variety of ways for adult students to learn. For
example, I demonstrate and teach using GED Connection videos/texts,
interactive Web sites, various other texts/workbooks, and online
PowerPoint presentations, etc. and let the students decide what will fit
their learning needs/styles/multiple intelligences both in the classroom
and in front of their own PC's. In the short term, they get to begin
making learning choices; in the long term, they recognize that many
other efficient and effective ways of learning are available.

Also, some adults simply want to clarify whether or not they are
following the correct steps or understand the material correctly to
determine why they keep having problems with the same kinds of questions
in math, grammar, or other skills. If they are parents, and are armed
with computer resources, they usually find another way to help their
children learn, especially if they are stumped themselves.

Thanks for the time that you spent evaluating these slides. Also, I
don't change them; I use them as is by linking to them on the Internet,
and I instruct the students about intellectual property. The original
site where I found these did not state that they may be used on in the
school district.

Mary Lou Friedline
friedlin@comcast.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rosen" <djrosen@comcast.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-fobasics@literacy.nifl.gov>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:57 PM
Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:1176] Re: division PowerPoint


> Thanks Mary Lou.  I took a look at the instruction and was
> disappointed.  I don't think it is well designed or appropriate for
> adults:
>
> 1.  The strategy -- remember the steps with a memory device based on
> members of the "family" -- might work if your family is nuclear, white
> and heterosexual, but this set of slides just perpetuates stereotypes
> about American families. Not many of the students I have taught  would
> relate to that picture of family.
> 2. The graphic style might be appropriate for elementary school
> children, but not particularly for adults.
> 3.  The slides emphasize operations only. They don't put long division
> in a context that adults could understand as meaningful.
> 4.  I saw no evidence that this approach encourages math thinking,
only
> how to follow long division operations rules.
> 5.  You shouldn't use these slides  unless you have permission and the
> last slide says "Copying of this software must be approved by Monica
> Yuskaitis, Walter White Elementary, CUSD. This software may only be
> used in Ceres Unified School District."
>
> I have taken the trouble to raise all these points knowing full well
> that it _is_ important to pass the GED, and that knowledge of long
> division _is_ required and that adult learners _do_ need to master the
> operations.  But I think we must have higher expectations and
> standards, especially as the GED is an economically useless credential
> for most of those who earn it unless it they go on for post-secondary
> education, which requires knowledge of mathematical thinking.
>
> David J. Rosen
> djrosen@comcast.net
>
> On Friday, November 19, 2004, at 05:24  PM, Mary Lou Friedline wrote:
>
> > I do apologize that the link didn't work, and I haven't figured why
it
> > didn't in my message. After doing a google search for the author,
> > Monica
> > Yuskaitis, I found this site.
> >
> > http://www.lexington1.net/technology/techresource/tis/integration/
> > powerpoint.htm
> >
> > Mary Lou Friedline
> > Adult Education Instructor
> > PIC of Westmoreland/Fayette, Inc.
> > Greensburg, PA 15601
> > 724-537-3631 Ext. 21
> > friedlin@comcast.net
> >
>



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