[NIFL-FOBASICS:1227] RE: Plateaus for ABE readers--2nd/3rd+Big Ideas

From: Chris Badger (badger4245@earthlink.net)
Date: Sat Dec 04 2004 - 00:39:04 EST


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From: "Chris  Badger" <badger4245@earthlink.net>
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Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:1227] RE: Plateaus for  ABE readers--2nd/3rd+Big Ideas
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Andrea,

I work in a correctional/drug treatment setting. Many of my students, 
admittedly, are not terribly sophisticated in their thinking. but they want 
to be treated that way from time to time. During the month leading up to the 
last election, a discussion developed in class as to whether inmates should 
have the right to vote. They saw the inability to become part of the 
election process as one more instance where society was failing them. I saw 
it as instance where society was punishing them by taking some of their 
rights away temporarily. TEACHING MOMENT!!!!!!!

I brought in copies of the "Constitution" and we went over parts of it. We 
spent about forty-five minutes a day, four days a week discussing voting 
rights, the needs of the many over the needs of the few, the respective 
roles of Congress, the Presidency and the Supreme Court. Finally, I brought 
an essay that explained the stance of the various states relating to the 
voting rights of offenders and ex-offenders. Imagine the uproar that ensued 
when I told them that nine states took the right to vote away from anyone 
incarcerated for a felony in perpetuity. The class transformed itself from a
group  of disinterested adults to a group of men who were on fire with 
interest.

My point, thought perhaps badly stated at the outset, is that illiterate and 
marginally literate adults common experiences with other adults but have 
never had the ability or the opportunity to explore these experiences. I try 
to give them that chance and our occasional discussions give ride to reading 
lessons taken from low-level readers and spelling test using words I have 
had them copy from my chalk-talk sessions, and even trivia contests. Look, I 
get bored teaching cat, rat, sat, bat, fat....
So I try to up the level of interest.

A final note. Our lesson today came from a the movie Christopher Columbus I 
showed at the beginning of the week.. The question they asked was, "How did 
Columbus know the world was round." My answer was, "First you must 
understand that the Greek figured that out in 600 BCE." They didn't follow 
all of it but many can now read the words Greek, round, Columbus, tropic, 
and explore. Trust me. If the teacher studies and questions, so will the 
students.
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Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:1218] RE: Plateaus for ABE readers--2nd/3rd+Big 
Ideas


> Chris,
>
> I decided to change the subject line to reflect the content of your post.
>
> How do you go about integrating skills + Big Ideas, for your low literate 
> learners?
>
> Anyone, else?
>
> How about their level of sophistication, thoughtfulness?  I don't want to 
> tread on any toes, here, but so much of communication on complex topics 
> comes from reading plus discussion, built up over time.  I'd be interested 
> in your thoughts and observations, also those of anybody else.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Andrea
> 



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