Return-Path: <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta5/980425bjb) with SMTP id IAA23130; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <NCBBKNKAOKKIEJPNDCLGOEBOCCAA.bosquez@swbell.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Pyron <bosquez@swbell.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-LD:2829] Please remove my name from this list. X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: O Content-Length: 2767 Lines: 66 -----Original Message----- From: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Lucille Cuttler Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-LD:2822] Re: Needing advice and direction Thank you, Tom. You said succinctly and correctly that you need a full tool box. O/G is one tool that few teachers have even heard about - witness the correspondence on this listserv. So let's give all teachers that one tool that may do the trick and that they will be thrilled to learn and to use. You are definitely right in the need to assess a learning style so you can know how to proceed. My personal experience has confirmed that O/G works with students who have never had success before. Private educational remediators have been using the method worldwide. I started Project Literacy/Outreach, Inc. (only in Nassau/Suffolk Counties, Long Island, NY) in 1986 so we could train tutors to deliver O/G gratis and take care of an unmet need of people unable to afford private remediation. It's a tool teachers can add to their tool kit. Lucille Cuttler http://www.projectliteracy.org -----Original Message----- From: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Tom Woods Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-LD:2817] Re: Needing advice and direction Lucille wrote: > The Orton/Gillingham approach - structured, multisensory - works for anyone >who can't read. Forget about the expensive diagnosis. Forget trying >shortcuts to speed up the process. Someone who went to school, didn't >learn, can't read, may need direct instruction from someone recognizing a >learning difference. There are several important issues here. Each teacher has to find her or his own way. There are MANY ways. I'd hesitate to say that O/G works for "anyone who can't read," especially after recognizing that not all learners are the same, not all learners have the same problems reading. I believe diagnosis is crucial. Maybe not "expensive" diagnosis, but diagnosis that finds out what kinds of problems the learner is having so instruction can address them. >nothing's going to work without a trained teacher, with an >understanding of the why and how of teaching. It's important to be aware of differences among learners, of knowing the things that good readers do, of being able to diagnose, and having a LARGE box of tools, techniques, and strategies for helping learners. Training can help a teacher develop in these areas, but it is not a guarantee. That is up to each teacher. Then there are the parents, not trained teachers, who taught their children to read before ever entering school. But that's another matter. Tom
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