Return-Path: <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eADLm8905539; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:48:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:48:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <AF196F44735ED411B93A00508BDFB1080ABC5B@WDCROBEXC09> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Crawford, June" <June_Crawford@ed.gov> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-LD:3254] RE: Help with College Prep Skills X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Status: O Content-Length: 6607 Lines: 172 I ran a college program for a number of years and we started taking students with diagnosed learning disabilities in 1983. We had a good record of retaining and graduating the students, but it requires a sensitive system that not only understands the legal necessity of reasonable accommodations, but personnel and faculty who care enough to learn about learning disabilities and student needs. Some of the books that discuss college services will list LD services, but I believe the student and parents need to go to the school, check out the system, make sure the place can accommodate the specific needs of the student, and make certain the professionals working with the student understand INSTRUCTION! Many places say they accept students with disabilities. They will give extra time for testing or private testing rooms, or make arrangements for use of a word processor for written exams, etc., but if they do not have faculty and tutors who are trained to assist students, and can demonstrate that what they do that is different from what they do for every other student, I would be cautious. Remedial programs at the college level are not the answer. The faculty and professional staff really need to have training in LD and be interested enough in this area of student service to have learned how students need to be taught - not just the accommodations, although these are necessary as part of the package. Anything less is not a good choice for most students. June Justice Crawford Learning Disabilities Program Associate National Institute For Literacy 202-233-2064 Phone 202-233-2050 Fax jcrawford@nifl.gov -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Trainor [mailto:et02@swt.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 5:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-LD:3253] RE: Help with College Prep Skills Learning Outside the Lines, by Jonathan Mooney and David Cole, is a wonderful book for individuals with learning differences who are attending college. It is written by two individuals, one with a learning disability and one with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, who overcame the system and graduated with honors from college. Another resource is the website, http://www.learningdifferences.com This web site has inexpensive tools that you can use to help your son in math, reading, and vocabulary. I know this because I am using the tools to help my son (age 11) because the system is failing him. If your son decides to try again, make sure he knows that he must document his disability to get accomodations in class, testing, etc. There are also support groups on the larger campuses. It is important that he know he is not alone in this . . . Good luck and God bless. Eileen Trainor >===== Original Message From nifl-ld@nifl.gov ===== >My son has decided college "is not for me" since he did not get the skills >he needed to overcome his moderate learning disability (works hard but >unsuccessfully in community college classes). If he is willing, >I would like to send him somewhere he could acquire the "learning how to >learn" skills that he needs (unfortunately he grew up in a rural area and >has no faith in tutoring after several bad/indifferent experiences -- not >to mention the trauma from bad/indifferent teachers without understanding >or interest in learning disabilities). > >I would tremendously appreciate any specific info on resouces/experiences >with specific programs (Landmark college? Lindamood and Bell?). He is a >personable guy and resents having been put in classes with developmentally >disabled folks and is very suspicious of services. > >Thanks so much. Liz > >> What is the name of the specific program you used (Lindamood's >> and Bell's programs)? Thanks. mag@sover.net >> >> Denton Kurtz wrote: >> > >> > June, >> > What a perfect place to put the special programs that we know remediate >> > learning disabilities. A captive audience that would be highly motivated. >> > When we do intensive training of 4 hours a day 5 days a week, we are able to >> > get years of change in a matter of weeks. One of our first clients was our >> > son who had been in the public schools LD program for 9 years but graduated >> > with a 6th reading level. After 114 hours of intensive training using >> > Lindamood's and Bell's programs he was reading at the college level. He >> > went back to college where he had failed even with the "special help", and >> > graduated 3 years later with a 3.0 average. >> > Denton Kurtz >> > the Kurtz Center >> > Winter Park, FL >> > www.learningdisabilities.com >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Crawford, June <June_Crawford@ed.gov> >> > To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> >> > Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:53 AM >> > Subject: [NIFL-LD:3239] Literacy and Prisons >> > >> > >Tom Woods mentioned that his program is located in a prison. I am curious, >> > >Tom, about the training of the faculty. Have they been trained in Bridges >> > >to Practice or in any of the reading programs that stress phonemic >> > >awareness? The incidence of learning disabilities in prisons is high, and >> > >yet the average sentence, nationwide, is only five years, and then people >> > >are back out on the street on probation/parole. Without an education, >> > >and/or an ability to navigate the job market through the use of assistive >> > >technology (and a diagnosis of LD for legal purposes) the chances of >> > >recidivism are greatly increased. The New York State Department of >> > >Corrections just decided to train a team of trainers for the prison system >> > >so their faculty can all get training. Several other states have done the >> > >same. I wonder how many of our listserv members are aware of any training >> > >being done in prisons in their state? >> > > >> > >I am "off the air" until Monday, but will look for responses at that point. >> > > >> > >June Justice Crawford >> > >Learning Disabilities Program Associate >> > >National Institute For Literacy >> > >202-233-2064 Phone >> > >202-233-2050 Fax >> > >jcrawford@nifl.gov >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> -- >> ============================ >> http://www.sover.net/~mag/ >> > >Elizabeth V. Gifford >Project Director >UNR Smoking Cessation Project >Department of Psychology / 298 >Reno, NV 89557 > >(775) 784-1395 Eileen Trainor, Grant Coordinator Project Inter-ALT http://cie.ci.swt.edu/interalt Texas Crime Stoppers http://www.crimestoppers.swt.edu Center for Initiatives in Education Southwest Texas State University San Marcos, TX et02@swt.edu 512 245 9047
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