[NIFL-LD:3293] RE: IEP's for Adult Literacy programs in Correctio

From: Young, Glenn (Glenn_Young@ed.gov)
Date: Mon Nov 27 2000 - 09:33:57 EST


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From: "Young, Glenn" <Glenn_Young@ed.gov>
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While I agree that we need to look at issues of individiualizing program
design I have a problem with two points in Bob's message

1) a "standard IEP" is a contradiction in terms - an IEP is based on the
needs of the individual and therefore making it "standard" defeats the
purpose of individualization.  Perhaps we can be in agreement if we say
"develop a standard process for the development of IEP ..."  but that leads
to my second point. 

2) There is no "special education" for persons out of school - IDEA only
covers those 22 and under without a high school degree, and who have
disabilities, and in school  ... that does not describe the population of
adult since adult basic ED requires the person to be 16 and older, and out
of secondary school and without a high school diploma ....  THEREFORE the
applicable laws for the adult basic education population is ADA and the
Rehab Act, Sect 504 and others sections in the 500 section based on the
particular issue involved, as well as the new regulation for Section 188 of
WIA.  None of these laws speak about ther right to IEPs... which is strickly
an IDEA term. The basis for addressing needs under these laws is "reasonable
accommodations." 

Therefore, while I strongly support the notion of individulization of
education approaches, and the use of appropriate education interventions,
includinge accommodations and assistive technology, I am requesting that we
don't confuse matters more by using terms that are very specific under
certain laws for situations that they don't really apply and can confuse
matter more.  Therefore, I am suggesting that we don't think of the issues
as "special education, and IEPs" but as "accommodations" based on ADA/Rehab
Act/Sec 188.  

It is not only more accurate under law ... it also helps the consumer to
better understand the laws that they can receive protections under ... and
for the most part, it is not IDEA.

Glenn Young
OVAE



-----Original Message-----
From: Esliger, Robert J. [mailto:reslige@mail1.ade.state.az.us]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [NIFL-LD:3286] IEP's for Adult Literacy programs in Corrections



Has anyone developed an IEP for Adults in corrections who are having
learning difficulties and/or for adults in ABE/GED/ESOL programs? I would
appreciate seeing what has been developed as it doesn't make sense to spend
hours re-inventing the wheel... it's time to start getting a functional,
workable, and perhaps standard IEP in place for our adult learners in our
programs...
Thoughts? Items to share? 
Bob
J. Robert (Bob) Esliger
Educational Program Specialist
Arizona Department of Education - Division of Adult Education
1535 West Jefferson Street
Phoenix, Arizona  85007

Office: 	602-364-4030
Fax:	602-542-1611

Check out the SOLA Website: http://www.ade.az.gov/adult-ed/SOLA/
<http://www.ade.az.gov/adult-ed/SOLA/> 



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