Return-Path: <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f58Bssf10647; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <40.c84cf5e.2852168d@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AWilder106@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-LD:3497] Re: From the Margins to the Mainstream X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Status: O Content-Length: 862 Lines: 21 June, This is a long and involved discussion and it might as well begin here. One of Art's points is that what looks like symptoms of LD may actually be symptoms of rotten school experiences. Everyone wants to be "OK." is also one of Art's points. When you help a child or adult to be "OK," to read, often the "symptoms" vanish. i am not denying that there are organic difficulties that hamper the individual's ability to speak or read. Even here, retraining may be possible. Sometimes ESL is confused with LD. I once taught a teenage prostitute, who had been hired out by her mother, who had mammoth ESL problems, but they were only that. As her ability to read and write in English improved, so did her happiness, what we now call "self-esteem." i am gald you are taking on this project, we really need some clarity here. Andrea
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