Return-Path: <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f5LFBff28235; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B320DD0.42D36894@ellijay.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Art LaChance <arthur@ellijay.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-LD:3537] Re: FW: Humiliating Awards Ceremony at Sc X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) Status: O Content-Length: 3041 Lines: 73 Barbara, I agree with you. And I have a real difficult time assigning responsibility for this back to the student. This is gross negligence on the part of public school administration. And yes the student, as an adult now, resists going back. And why not. Look what that system did to them the first time. We need to fix this. Yesterday. Art Art LaChance Gilmer Learning Center Ellijay,GA "Guyer, Barbara" wrote: > Dear Cindi, Unfortunately, that happens a lot. I know of many LD students > who have been told just that. Later they realized what a mistake they had > made, but it is so difficult later to go back and be involved in school. I > agree with your comments completely! Barbara Guyer, Director, HELP Program, > Marshall University, Huntington, WV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cindi Riley [mailto:lvl@hargray.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [NIFL-LD:3484] Re: FW: Humiliating Awards Ceremony at Sc > > I know of at least 4 situations here locally where students were told to > just drop out and get a GED. One did, took the GED without studying for it > and passed it. He was 17, very bright, but in trouble a lot. His counselor > was tired of dealing with him. I think that any high school counselor that > tells a student to just drop out should be drawn and quartered! :) > > ******************** > Cindi Riley > Assistant Director > Literacy Volunteers of the Lowcountry > 1403 Prince St. > Beaufort, SC 29902 > phone 843-525-6658 > fax 843-521-1945 > lvl@hargray.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: nifl-ld@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-ld@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Woods > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [NIFL-LD:3480] Re: FW: Humiliating Awards Ceremony at Sc > > Art, > You have eloquently expressed you distaste for public awards. Thank you. You > draw a distinction between "minor awards" (bad) and major awards such as a > high school commencement (ok). I'm curious about your reasons why a > commencement would be ok. If I understand all your points correctly, I can > see a similar danger in making a big to do about those who earn their > diploma. I wonder what the kids who flunked might think about it. What about > the kids who had to quit school because they had to support a family? > > While we're all griping about horrendous actions on the part of some > schools, I just want to share that I talked with two new students today who > told me their high schools advised them to drop out. Of course, many of my > students have a very skewed perception when it comes to interpreting what > people tell them, and maybe the message they received was different than the > one that was sent. I have heard so many similar stories from others that I > have to wonder what can be done to stem the tide of dropouts. If public > awards create feelings of despair among those who do not succeed, I wonder > what just coming out and telling the kid that s/he's not wanted does. > > Tom
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