[NIFL-LD:4661] Re: How best to approach student who seems to "blank out" for long periods

From: Michele Anne Craig (shellcraig@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Tue Mar 22 2005 - 18:27:46 EST


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From: "Michele Anne Craig" <shellcraig@ix.netcom.com>
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Marilyn,

I am very familiar with the accomodations forms, but we do not have an LD
specialist at our site. I feel that by default, I am considered the LD
specialist or at least act as the screening process. . We do not have money
for testing for students who are not identified. So far the best I can do
is to have them enroll at the local community college and be tested there
(for free). There, they do have an LD specialist who discusses
accomodations. 

When I asked the other teachers at our site how they had worked with him,
they rolled their eyes, and said "That guy is wierd." To me, this doesn't
get anyone anywhere. It makes the student into something "other" and kind
of writes him off as not being capable of learning. 

So I guess I am asking is there a way to approach this delicate subject
when you don't have a formal screening process? And what accomodations have
the rest of you used for a student who has attention lapses? If money for
LD assessment isn't available, or the student doesn't have insurance for a
neurological assessment (which I think might be more appropriate) how do
you go about getting these things for your students? 

I have had no luck with the department of rehabilitiation, and the local
university that has an MA in LD doesn't return my emails. 

Michele Craig
Woodland Adult School 


> [Original Message]
> From: Marilynn Abrahamson <marilynn@whidbey.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov>
> Date: 3/21/2005 5:59:58 PM
> Subject: [NIFL-LD:4653] Re: How best to approach student who seems to
"blank out" for long periods
>
> Hi, Michele,
> Do you have a "learning needs specialist" in your Ad. Ed. Dept., that you
> can have come in and do an oral interview with him to start the process of
> determining the exact nature of his learning needs?  We have LD
specialists
> on our staff who have been trained in identifying indicators of learning
> disabilities.  They will work with the student to develop effective
learning
> strategies and with the instructors to apply appropriate teaching
> strategies.  A learning needs specialist also can start the process so the
> student can apply for accommodations for taking the GED tests.  We have
> learned that as GED instructors, even with a minimal amount of LD
training,
> that we still need experts who have been formally trained in LDs to come
in
> and assist us with students with the learning difficulties you described.
> In addition, I would recommend that you contact your GED testing center to
> familiarize yourself with the L-15 application for accommodations on the
GED
> test.
> Marilynn
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michele Anne Craig" <shellcraig@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov>
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:15 PM
> Subject: [NIFL-LD:4652] How best to approach student who seems to "blank
> out" for long periods
>
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Last night I had a student join my class who has passed through the
hands
> > of many other teachers at our site. He took three nights to take the
> CASAs,
> > but his scores were pretty good (in the 240's for reading and 230's for
> > math). He has tried to take the GED and failed. As I spoke with him and
> > watched him work, it almost seemed as if he was having petit mal
seizures.
> > I would ask him a question and his eyes would glaze over and he wouldn't
> > respond for several minutes. When he did respond, it was obvious he was
> > just taking up where he left off, but didn't seem cognizant of the fact
> > that time had elapsed. When he read, it took him about 10 minutes to
read
> a
> > very easy paragraph, but when he finished it, he had good recollection
of
> > what he had read, he was just painfully slow. He showed me his HS
> > transcript (from Mexico) and he had received very good high school
grades
> > in courses like philosophy and physics.So while second language
> acquisition
> > is an issue, something else is going on.  I was beginning to wonder if
he
> > had an accident or something that affected his brain, but I don't really
> > know how to bring this up. His behavior is also similar to some of the
> > students I have worked with who have schizophrenia.
> >
> > I am thinking about telling him that I noticed that sometimes he takes a
> > long time to answer a question or to read a passage and has that always
> > been the case? But....I don't want to turn him off or embarrass him. On
> the
> > other hand, he has been bumped from school to school and teacher to
> > teacher. He told me he really wants to work on his reading skills.
> >
> > Has anyone worked with students like this or do you have any
suggestions?
> I
> > really want to help him pass his GED, but I am at a loss. If it is going
> to
> > take him so long to process information, I feel like it would be useful
> for
> > me to know why so I can help.
> >
> > Michele
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



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