Return-Path: <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j4PF7oG01905; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <012201c5613b$2fd65eb0$0202a8c0@mesh> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "John Nissen" <jn@cloudworld.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-LD:4780] Re: LD Toolkit and multisensory approach with X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 2719 Lines: 82 Hi, Thanks too for the broccoli. Most words ending with that short /i/ sound have 'y'. A few have 'e' like apostrophe. The rest have 'i', as 'taxi', broccoli' and a few others (all Italian?). I prefer to keep to the 'correct'/normal pronunciation, rather than invent a special pronunciation to help with the spelling. On the other hand, personally I have to think sounds of spellings of 'separate' and 'sentence' as these are bugbears for me. Broccoli is from Italian, which has the 'cc'. You can spell it brocoli in English as an alternative. In Italian, the 'c' or 'cc' is softenened to /ch/ if followed by 'e' or 'i'. Hence 'concerto'. The doubling affects the timing/stress, not the pronunciation otherwise. BTW, what is this syllabic rule that makes everything clear, Susan? Cheers, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Landoll" <amlandoll@yahoo.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: [NIFL-LD:4779] Re: LD Toolkit and multisensory approach with > Broccoli works pretty well for most of the word. > (Spelled and read as it sounds). Except for the i at > the end. To sound that: We must "know" that the i is > making a long e sound. And we must "remember" that if > it was spelled with e instead of i, it would not work, > because we "remember" the silent e rule, and the le > ending rule... > > Just more crazy material for your humorous spelling > program... > > Anita > > > --- Susan Jones <SUJones@parkland.edu> wrote: > >> My favorite resource for spelling is "How to Teach >> Spelling" by Rudginski & Haskell. Anybody can spell >> broccoli when they understand those closed & open >> syllables :-) >> >> It was one of my students who made the observation >> (subvocalizing while taking one of those obnoxious >> standardized spelling tests) that the vowel before >> -tute or -tude is "i" even though it's a schwa. I >> checked * it's darned near universal (quietude & >> desuetude are the exceptions I found.) >> >> However, I am utterly confident that word nerds such >> as myself process this information completely >> differently than most struggling spellers. *My* >> unfunded-project-lurking-in-the-sketchbook is an >> adult spelling program with a strong dose of humor >> and a bit of "video game" graphics & games. >> >> Susan Jones >> Academic Development Specialist >> Academic Development Center >> Parkland College >> Champaign, IL 61821 >> sujones@parkland.edu >> Webmastress, >> http://www.resourceroom.net >> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
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