[NIFL-LD:4935] RE: Fwd: LD and intensive phonics

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Hi Michele,

Here is the URL with information on Dr. Kenneth  Pugh.

http://www.haskins.yale.edu/Haskins/STAFF/pugh.html

These  articles were included on that page.  I am sure there are more.

I  have copied this message to the email address on that page.  Possibly we  
can reach Dr. Pugh and he might allow us to submit some specific questions to  
him.



Johnson, N. F., Pugh, K. R., & Blum, A. More on the way we "see"  letters 
from words within memory. Journal of Memory and Language, 28, 155-163,  1989. 

Pugh, K., Rexer, K., & Katz, L. Evidence of flexible coding in  visual word 
recognition. Journal of Experimental Psychology: Human Perception  and 
Performance, 20, 807-825, 1994. 

Pugh, K., Rexer, K., Peter, M., & Katz, L. Neighborhood effects in  visual 
word recognition: Effects of letter delay and nonword context difficulty.  
Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition, 20,  639-648, 
1994. 

Johnson, N. F., & Pugh, K. R. An examination of cohort models of visual  word 
recognition: On the role of letters in word-level processing. Cognitive  
Psychology, 240-346, 1994. 

Shaywitz, B., Pugh, K., Constable, T., Shaywitz, S., Bronen, R.,  Fullbright, 
R., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L., Fletcher, J., Skudlarski, P., &  Gore, J. 
(1994). Localization of semantic processing using functional magnetic  resonance 
imaging. Annals of Neurology, 36, 504-505. 

Shaywitz, B., Pugh, K., Constable, T., Shaywitz, S., Bronen, R.,  Fullbright, 
R., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L., Fletcher, J., Skudlarski, P., &  Gore, J. 
Localization of semantic processing using functional magnetic resonance  imaging. 
Human Brain Mapping, 2, 149-158, 1995. 

Shaywitz, B., Shaywitz, S., Pugh, K., Constable, T., Skudlarski, P.,  
Fullbright, R., Bronen, R., Fletcher, J., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L., & Gore,  J. Sex 
differences in the functional organization of the brain for language.  Nature, 
373, 607-609, 1995. 

Pugh, K., Shaywitz, B., Constable, T., Shaywitz, S., Skudlarski, P.,  
Fullbright, R., Bronen, R., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L., Fletcher, J., & Gore,  J. 
Cerebral organization of component processes in reading. Brain, ,119,  1221-1238, 
(1996). 

Pugh, K., Shaywitz, B. A., Shaywitz, S. E., Fulbright, R. K., Byrd, D.,  
Skudlarski, P., Shankweiler, D. P., Katz, L., Constable, R. T., Fletcher, J.,  
Lacadie, C., Marchione, K., & Gore, J. C.. Auditory selective attention: An  fMRI 
investigation. NeuroImage, 4, 159-173, (1996). 

Pugh, K., Shaywitz, B., Shaywitz, S., R., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L.,  
Fletcher, J., Constable, T., Skudlarski, P., Fullbright, R., Bronen, R. &  Gore, J. 
Predicting reading performance from neuroimaging profiles: The cerebral  basis 
of phonological effects in printed word identification. Journal of  
Experimental Psychology: Human Perception and Performance, 23, 299-318, (1997).  

Shaywitz, B., Shaywitz, S., Pugh, K., Skudlarski, P., Fullbright, R.,  
Constable, T., Bronen, R., Fletcher, J., Liberman, A., Shankweiler, D., Katz,  L., 
Lacadie, C., & Gore, J. Functional magnetic resonance imaging as a tool  to 
understand reading and reading disability. In R.W. Thatcher, R. Reid Lyon,  and 
N. Krasnegor (Eds.) Developmental neuroimaging: Mapping the development of  
brain and behavior. Orlando, FL: Academic Press (1997). 

Shaywitz, B., Shaywitz, S., Pugh, K., Constable, T., Skudlarski, P.,  Bronen, 
R., Fullbright, R., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L., & Gore, J. The  neurobiology 
of developmental reading disorders as viewed through the lens of  neuroimaging 
technology. In R. Reid Lyon and J Rumsey (Eds.) Neuroimaging: A  window to the 
neurological foundations of learning and behavior. Baltimore: Paul  H. 
Brookes (1996). 

Shaywitz, B., Shaywitz, S., Pugh, K., R., Fullbright, Constable, T., Mencl,  
E., Skudlarski, Liberman, A. R., Shankweiler, D., Katz, L., Fletcher, J.,  
Lacadie, C., Marchione, K., Gatenby, C., & Gore, J. Functional disruption in  the 
organization of the brain for reading in dysle xia. Proceedings of the  
National Academy of Sciences, 95, 2636-2641 (1998). 

Constable, R.T., Skudlarski, Mencl, E.M., Pugh, K.R., Fulbright, R.,  
Lacadie, C., Marchione, K., Shaywitz, S.E., & Shaywitz, B.A. Quantifying and  
comparing region-of-interest activation patterns in function brain MR imaging,  
Methodology Considerations. Magnetic Resonance Imaging, 15(3), 289-300, 1998.  

Shaywitz, S., Shaywitz, B., Pugh, K., Fulbright, R., Constable, T., Mencl,  
W.E., Naftolin, F., Skudlarski, P.,Fletcher, Marchione, K., Lacadie, Gatenby,  
C., Klorman, R., & Gore, J. Estrogen changes functional organization of  brain 
in postmenopausal women. Journal of the American Medical Association, 281,  
1197-1202, 1999. 

Shaywitz, S., Fletcher, J.M., Holahan, J., Shneider, A., Marchione, K.  
Steubing, K., Francis, D., Pugh, K. , & Shaywitz, B. Persistence of  dyslexia: The 
Connecticut Longitudinal Study at adolesence, Pediatrics, 104, 1-9  (1999). 

Fulbright RK, Jenner AR, Mencl WE, Pugh, KR, Shaywitz BA, Shaywitz SE,  Frost 
SJ, Skudlarski P, Constable RT, Lacadie CM, Marchione KE, Gore,JC. The  
cerebellum's role in reading: a functional MR imaging study. American Journal of  
Neuroradiology 20: 1925-1930, 1999;. 

Pugh, K., Mencl, E.W., Shaywitz, B. A., Shaywitz, S. E., Fulbright, R. K.,  
Skudlarski, P., Constable, R. T., Marchione, K., Jenner A.R., Shankweiler, D.  
P., Katz, L., Fletcher, J., Lacadie, C., & Gore, J. C.. The angular gyrus in  
developmental dyslexia: Task-specific differences in functional connectivity 
in  posterior cortex. Psychological Science, 11, 51-56 (2000). 

Constable, R.T, Carpentier, A., Pugh, K.R., Westervels, M. Oszunar, Y.,  & 
Spencer, D.D. Investigation of the human hippocampal formation using a  
randomized event-related paradigm and Z-Shimmed functional MRI. Neuroimage, 12,  55-62 
(2000). 
Ni, W., Constable, R.T., Mencl, W.E., Pugh, K.R., Fulbright,  R.K., Shaywitz, 
S.E., 
 
Shaywitz, B.A., Gore, J.C., & Shankweiler, D. An event-related  neuroiamging 
study distinguishing form and content in sentence processing.  Journal of 
Cognitive Neuroscience, 12:1, 120-133, (2000). 

Pugh, K.R., Mencl, W.E., Jenner, A.J., Katz, L., Lee, J.R., Shaywitz, S.E.,  
& Shaywitz, B.A. Functional neuroimaging studies of reading and reading  
disability (developmental dyslexia). Mental Retardation and Developmental  
Disabilites Review, 6(3), 207-213 (2000). 

Mencl, W.E., Pugh, K.R., Shaywitz, S.E., Shaywitz, B.A., Fulbright, R.K.  
Constable, R.T., Skudlarski, P., Katz, L., Marchione, K.E., Lacadie, C., &  Gore, 
J.C. (2000). Network Analysis of Brain Activations in Working Memory:  
Behavior and Age Relationships. Microscopy Research and Technique, 51, 64-74.  

Shaywitz, B., Shaywitz, S., Pugh, K., R., Mencl, E., Fullbright, Constable,  
T., Skudlarski, Jenner, A.R., Fletcher, J., Marchione, K., Shankweiler, D.,  
Katz, L.,Lacadie, C., & Gore, J. Disruption of posterior brain systems in  
children with developmental dyslexia. submitted. 
 
 
 
 
Rochelle Kenyon
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Rochelle,
 
Do you know if he has written any books or articles? I can't make it to  the
conference as our school doesn't have the funding, but I would love to  read
what he has to say. 
 
Michele 
 

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Subject: [NIFL-LD:4928] Fwd: LD and intensive  phonics

Aaron,

Dr. Kenneth Pugh spoke at the Bridges to Practice  annual symposium at the 
LDA Conference.  He is also one of the two  keynote speakers - along with Dr. 
Jim Russell - scheduled at the LDA of  Michigan annual conference at the Kellogg 
Hotel and Conference Center in East  Lansing, Michigan. Dr.  Pugh's keynote 
session will be held on Monday,  October 24, 2005. Dr. Pugh  is a Research 
Scientist at the Yale University  School of Medicine (Pediatrics)  and also holds 
an appointment as a Senior  Scientist at the Haskins Laboratories,  New Haven, 
CT.  His primary  research interests are in the areas of cognitive 
neuroscience and  psycholinguistics.  For those of you that are interested  
in hearing  two of 
the best speakers and professionals in our field, this  would  be a great 
opportunity.  For more information, go to: 
_http://www.bridges4kids.org/ld/FallConfLDA.pdf_ (http://www.bridges4kids.org/ld/FallConfLDA.pdf) _
(_http://www.bridges4kids.org/ld/FallConfLDA.pdf_ 
(http://www.bridges4kids.org/ld/FallConfLDA.pdf) )  .



Rochelle Kenyon
Moderator,  NIFL-Learning Disabilities Discussion  List
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John,

Sorry I couldn't respond earlier- I have been out of town the  past  week.  
Kenneth Pugh at Yale Univ. has also done some recent brain  research  using 
MRIs and looking at what happens in the brain when someone  is reading.   There 
is a short write-up here on his research  area:  
_http://www.haskins.yale.edu/Haskins/STAFF/pugh.html_ (http://www.haskins.yale.edu/Haskins/STAFF/pugh.html) 
I  don't know if  more has been published yet.

Aaron
 
 At 11:04 AM 9/30/2005 -0400,  you wrote:

Hello  Aaron,

Thank you for the  references.  I had a good read of the  article on 
Neurobiology, and  it is very informative and well  written.

However I have some  problems with it.  From what I  have seen, none of the 
research on  dyslexia has taken into account a key  environmental factor- how 
the  subjects had been taught to  read.   Moreover none of the researchers, to 
my knowledge, have looked  at children who have been given intensive phonics 
training at the start of  primary school, by either explicit  phonics or 
synthetic phonics.   Perhaps the patterns of brain  activation would be
different, if the  subjects had been taught in a  different way.  In the 
Clackmannanshire  study, all the children were  taught to read successfully using 
synthetic  phonics, and there was little  or no "dyslexia" apparent. And I 
have heard  of reseach suggesting that  the left brain can indeed by activated" 
to help  people overcome reading  problems.

Therefore, I am suspicious when  the article says that  "dyslexia is a 
persistent and chronic  condition".  It seems there  might be effective remediation 
that could  activate the parts of the brain  that are used by normal readers.  
A  key giveaway in the article is  as follows:
quote]  The awareness  that all words  can be decomposed into these basic 
elements of language  (phonemes) allows  the reader to decipher the reading code. 
In order to  read, a child has to  develop the insight that spoken words can 
be pulled  apart into phonemes  and that the letters in a written word 
represent these  sounds. This  so-called phonemic awareness is largely missing in 
dyslexic  children and  adults. Results from large and well-studied populations 
with  reading  disability confirm that in young school-aged children, as well 
as  in adolescents, a deficit in phonology represents the most robust  and 
specific
correlate of reading disability. end  quote]

The explicit phonics and synthetic phonics are designed to  give this  
phonemic awareness from the start.  The other skill these  methods  impart is 
"blending" - the ability to put the phonemes together  to form  (spoken) words.  
This skill is not mentioned in the article  but is a  key skill for reading. 
There is a great danger of  looking at the brain of  a dyslexic person,
and saying the brain has been  "disrupted" or  "impaired", when in fact it 
may be just the way the person  was  taught.  Is there any evidence to the 
contrary?

What I'd  like to see is brain scans of the Clackmannanshire pupils  reading, 
to see  which parts of the brain they are using, especially for  those pupils 
with  dyslexic genes.

Cheers from  Chiswick,

John
P.S.  Ian, I'm copying this to  you, because I read you'd  done some fMRI 
with researchers at  Bristol.


> >----- Original Message  -----
> >From: "Aaron  Kohring" <_akohring@utk.edu_ (mailto:akohring@utk.edu) >
>  >To: "Multiple  recipients of list" <_nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov_ 
(mailto:nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov) >
>  >Sent: Thursday,  September 29, 2005 5:00 PM
> >Subject:  [NIFL-LD:4893] Re: LD and intensive  phonics
> >
>  >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Yes,  there  is research into some of these areas you mention.
> >  >
> > > I'd  recommend taking a look at the Focus on Basics  article: The
> > >  Neurobiology of Reading and Dyslexia: _http://www.ncsall.net/?id=278_ 
(http://www.ncsall.net/?id=278) 
>  >  >
> > > Also, look at the resources under the section  on  Teaching/Learning 
> related
> > > to  instruction:  _http://ldlink.coe.utk.edu/research.htm_ 
(http://ldlink.coe.utk.edu/research.htm) 
>  > >
> > > Other good  instructional guides are found  here:
> > >  _http://ldlink.coe.utk.edu/ld_instruction.htm_ 
(http://ldlink.coe.utk.edu/ld_instruction.htm) 
>  > >
> > >  Aaron
> > >
> >  >
> > > At 11:26 AM 9/29/2005 -0400, you  wrote:
>  > >>Hello everybody,
> > >>
> >  >>It  seems I was too late for Christopher, and a bit off topic,  since
my
> >  >>questions were not related to  technology.  But I'd be interested to 
have
> > >>answers  to these questions.
> > >>
> >  >>Concerning  the first question I asked, what kind of particular
problems  
>  do
> > >>people with LD have with reading.  Is there  anything  different from
the
> > >>"specific" learning  difficulty, which is  dyslexia (or at least
embraces
> >  >>dyslexia)?  Is the  difficulty in phonological awareness, or  in
blending
> > >>skills, or  in spelling/decoding rules,  or in comprehension, or a
mixture
> >  >>of
> >  >>all these?  If it is a mix, is there a  characteristic  mix?  Has any
> > >>research
> > >>been   done on this?
> > >>
> > >>On the second question,  I have  heard of people with LD being taught
to
> >  >>recognise whole words by  associating them with symbols.  This  seems
to be
> > >>a
> >  >>denial of the  fact that letters represent sounds, and they should  be
> >  >>taught
> > >>how to decode words, by sounding out   the letters and blending those 
> sounds
> >  >>together.  But one  person I asked said that "phonics was  not
suitable for
> > >>children  with LD".  I cannot  believe this.  Is there research
evidence  
> on
> >  >>whether intensive phonics teaching is effective or not for   people
with 
> LD,
> > >>regardless of age?
> >  >>
> >  >>The third question is about cause and  effect.  If poor readers  are
> > >>utilising
>  > >>their right brain when they should  be using their left brain,  they
could
> > >>end
> > >>up  with  underdeveloped left brains, i.e. not as relatively large 
>  (compared
> >  >>to right brain) as normal.  That would  be an _effect_ of lack of 
use.
> > >>Alternatively a left  brain problem (e.g. damage) could be  the
_cause_ of
> >  >>their poor reading, from a young age, and they  would grow up with  a
> > >>relatively small left brain.  So is it  cause  or effect?  What does
the
> > >>research say?  And  is  there anything that can be done for the older
child
> >  >>or
> >  >>adult person to help in left brain  development?
> > >>
> >  >>----------
>  > >>
> > >>----- Original Message  -----
>  > >>From: "John Nissen" <_jn@cloudworld.co.uk_ 
(mailto:jn@cloudworld.co.uk) >
> >   >>To: "Multiple recipients of list"  <_nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov_ 
(mailto:nifl-ld@literacy.nifl.gov) >
>  > >>Sent: Friday, September 23,  2005 10:26 PM
> >  >>Subject: [NIFL-LD:4872] LD and intensive  phonics
> >  >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> >  >>  > Hello Christopher,
> > >> >
> >  >> > I am sorry I  coming into this session rather late.  I  hope I am
not 
> too
> > >>  > late
> >  >> > to join in with some questions.
> > >>   >
> > >> > 1.  Do people with LD have different  teaching  requirements?
> > >> >
> > >>  > I am trying to find  out whether there is any difference in the  
> teaching
> > >> >  requirements for teaching  people with LD to read, and teaching
people
> >  >> >  with
> > >> > dyslexia to read.  I haven't found   any factor to distinguish
them, as
> > >> > regards their  reading  (dis)ability.
> > >> >
> > >>  > 2.  Is poor  reading due to poor teaching?
> > >>  >
> > >> > Also I  want to find out to what extent the  poor reading, or
> > >> >  non-reading,
> >  >> > is
> > >> > due to misguided   teaching.  I often see that there are attempts to
> > >>  >  teach
> > >> > whole word recognition rather than  word decoding,  especially for 
> people
> > >> >  with
> > >> > LD, who  may be considered incapable of the  necessary phonological
> > >> >  awareness.
> >  >> > In the Clackmannanshire study, it was shown  that a 'phonics  first
and
> > >> > fast'
> > >> >   approach worked marvels for all the children, and by the end of 
>  primary
> >  >> > school they were three years ahead in  reading age compared to 
their
> > >> > peers
> >  >> > taught by the  'conventional' teaching of a mixture of  methods
> > >> >  (including
> > >> >  an
> > >> > element of phonics,  together with guessing  strategies, etc.).  I
> > >> >  suspect
> >  >> > that anybody who has learnt to speak is also  capable of  the
> > >> > phonological
> > >> >   awareness required for reading and writing, given appropriate 
>  teaching.
> >  >> >
> > >> > 3.   Left brain development for rapid  decoding
> > >>  >
> > >> > Finally I wonder whether  the right brain  development in some poor
> > >> > readers
> >   >> > is
> > >> > because they have developed skills  for  whole word recognition,
and 
> with
> > >>  > the
> > >> >  right teaching, their left brain would  be developed to enable
rapid
> >  >> > decoding, even  in older children.
> > >>
> >  >>BTW, I've  written about the teaching of a brand of intensive  phonics
> >  >>called
> > >>"synthetic phonics" here:
> >   >>http://www.cloudworld.co.uk/teaching-synthetic-phonics.htm
>  >  >>and I'd be grateful for comments.
> >  >>
> >  >>Cheers from Chiswick,
> >  >>
> > >>John
> >  >>
> >  >>John Nissen,
> > >>director Cloudworld  Ltd
>  > >>maker of the WordAloud assistive reader
> >   >>http://www.cloudworld.co.uk
> > >
> > >  Aaron  Kohring
> > > Coordinator, LINCS Literacy & Learning  Disabilities  Special
Collection
> > >
> > >  Center for Literacy Studies,  University of Tennessee
> > > EFF  Center for Training and Technical  Assistance
> > > Phone:(865)  974-4109 main
> >   >           (865)  974-4258  direct
> > > Fax:   (865) 974-3857
>  > > e-mail:  _akohring@utk.edu_ (mailto:akohring@utk.edu) 
> > >
>  > >
>
> Aaron Kohring
> Coordinator,  LINCS  Literacy & Learning Disabilities Special Collection
>
> Center  for  Literacy Studies, University of Tennessee
> EFF Center for  Training and  Technical Assistance
> Phone:(865) 974-4109   main
> (865)  974-4258 direct
> Fax:   (865)  974-3857
> e-mail:  _akohring@utk.edu_ (mailto:akohring@utk.edu) 
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