[NIFL-POVRACELIT:830] Re: question on the part that memory plays

From: Harry Forster (hforster@strato.net)
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  Kate Gladstone wrote:

> Dear experts

Like Andrea I too would like to know more about your interest so that I 
can better respond. I am not considered an expert by anybody, but here 
are some facts.

> - as you see things, does memory play any part in literacy-instruction? 

Most definitely! I have not seen anything in the US that is of much 
value. They are all concerned with NRP and research based ideas, and 
assesment. There is a professor in Germany that has an excellent 
perspective on these matters.

Quotes such as the following from works of Robert Lado are not allowed 
in the US totalitarian atmosphere.

"...the success of the intensive courses in English developed under 
Fries's direction and the success of the intensive language programs 
under linguistic auspices during the Second World War [/i.e. the Army 
Method; U.M./] Although these did not include controlled experiments, 
the evidence was convincing."
In Europe these ideas are being taught.

>
> We all know, of course, to avoid *rote* memorization (memorization of 
> info that the person doesn't even understand),

This is also called recall learning or serial learning. You may find 
something under those titles.

> but does any place exist for *non-rote* memorization (memorization of 
> info that the person *does* understand)
> ?

Memory is a complex process. From the psychological perspective there 
are three parts of the human memory that share work: There is (a) a 
sensory or ultra-short term memory, (b) a short-term memory (STM), also 
called working memory, and (c) a long-term memory (LTM). I presume that 
your interest is in LTM however you must use the others inorder to get 
to LTM. In addition Episodic Memory and Semantic Memory are recognized 
in the learning process.

Neurological data is even more confusing. The most advanced and rapidly 
growing body of socially useful knowledge at this time is neurology and 
brain research. It has pushed all other fields to their limit and has 
caused them to break. It is the most exciting field I have seen!

Harry Forster.


>
>
> Yours for better letters,
> Kate Gladstone - Handwriting Repair
> kate@global2000.net
> http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair
> 325 South Manning Boulevard
> Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA
> telephone 518/482-6763
> AND REMEMBER ...
> you can order books through my site! (Amazon.com link - I
> get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)
>
>
>



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       Kate Gladstone wrote:<br>
 
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid7CDB5C60-7BD9-11D6-A2A3-0003936786B0@global2000.net">Dear experts</blockquote>
Like Andrea I too would like to know more about your interest so that I can
better respond. &nbsp;I am not considered an expert by anybody, but here are some
facts.<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid7CDB5C60-7BD9-11D6-A2A3-0003936786B0@global2000.net"> - as you
see things, does memory play any part in literacy-instruction? </blockquote>
Most definitely! &nbsp;I have not seen anything in the US that is of much value.
&nbsp;They are all concerned with NRP and research based ideas, and assesment.
&nbsp;There is a professor in Germany that has an excellent perspective on these
matters.<br>
<br>
<font color="#000000"><span lang="EN-IE">Quotes such as the following from
works of Robert Lado</span></font> are not allowed in the US totalitarian
atmosphere.<br>
<br>
<font color="#000000"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size: 10pt;">"...the
   success of the intensive courses in English developed under Fries&#8217;s direction
   and the success of the intensive language programs under linguistic auspices
   during the Second World War [<i>i.e. the Army Method; U.M.</i>] Although
these    did not include controlled experiments, the evidence was convincing.</span></font>"<br>
In Europe these ideas are being taught.<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid7CDB5C60-7BD9-11D6-A2A3-0003936786B0@global2000.net"><br>
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We all know, of course, to avoid *rote* memorization (memorization 
 of info that the person doesn't even understand),</blockquote>
This is also called&nbsp; recall learning or serial learning. &nbsp; You may find something
under those titles.<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid7CDB5C60-7BD9-11D6-A2A3-0003936786B0@global2000.net"> but does
any place exist  for *non-rote* memorization (memorization of info that the
person *does* understand) <br>
 ? <br>
  </blockquote>
Memory is a complex process. &nbsp;From the psychological perspective there are&nbsp;
<span lang="EN-GB"><font color="#000000">three parts of the human memory
that share    work: There is </font><font color="#000000">(a) a sensory or
</font><font color="#000000">ultra-short term memory, </font><font
 color="#000000">(b) a </font><font color="#000000">short-term memory   
(STM), also called working memory, and </font><font color="#cc0000"><font
 color="#000000">(c) a long-term memory (LTM)</font>.</font> </span>&nbsp;I presume
that your interest is in LTM however you must use the others inorder to get
to LTM. &nbsp; In addition &nbsp;Episodic Memory and Semantic Memory are recognized
in the learning process.<br>
<br>
Neurological data is even more confusing. &nbsp; The most advanced and rapidly
growing body of &nbsp;socially useful knowledge at this time is neurology and
brain research. &nbsp;It has pushed all other fields to their limit and has caused
them to break. &nbsp;It is the most exciting field I have seen!<br>
<br>
Harry Forster.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid7CDB5C60-7BD9-11D6-A2A3-0003936786B0@global2000.net"><br>
  <br>
 Yours for better letters, <br>
 Kate Gladstone - Handwriting Repair <br>
 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kate@global2000.net">kate@global2000.net</a>
  <br>
 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair">http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair>
  <br>
 325 South Manning Boulevard <br>
 Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA <br>
 telephone 518/482-6763 <br>
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; AND REMEMBER ... <br>
 you can order books through my site! (Amazon.com link - I <br>
 get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold) <br>
  <br>
  <br>
  <br>
 </blockquote>
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