Return-Path: <nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h6FDkj726600; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1205F514.3AF0BB6E.0006CB3C@netscape.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: tjjhjr@netscape.net To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-POVRACELIT:1199] RE: The Weekly Dig Article on X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Status: RO Content-Length: 4178 Lines: 79 maybe if i wrote it up in french.....or if i just sent out a copy of... the pedagogy of the oppressed.....call if u want info....otherwise be nice and stop insulting those who sincerely want to help...but here is a fresh quote "CAL...is not an advocacy group, we don't do that..." 7/14/03 "Margarita Oliver" <pegtoliver@earthlink.net> wrote: >Andres Muro, > Maybe it doesn't matter what "language" tj uses. He's voicing the >frustration and voicelessness we all feel -- and he's adding "research," >which I, at any rate, am collecting, about inequalities, which, I believe, >concerns all of us. > While there are a number of us writing, we are from a variety of >states. Robert Reich, when he was Labor Secretary, wrote, in a small >booklet, "The New Inequality," that "only a small number of people are >interested in the education and training of adults." I've always been >grateful to be in that small group, and I believe that all of us who feel >passionately about this are a small group. (Unfortunately, his words have >been turned into state Workforce programs, which, with too many >restrictions, are getting all the funding but leaving too many adults and >older youth behind, de-promoting full attention to the full "literacy" that >WOULD "lift all boats." That inattention and neglect give permission for >the abuses we all see, of course. Nonprofit groups like mine, fighting to >"fill in the ," are always extremely fragile, financially. >(Incidentally, the local Workforce Board NEEDS my open, self-paced GED >program to be able to place clients that don't fit their programs, or who >aren't eligible. However, they and the other agencies, school districts, >etc., who NEED my program refuse to give me a letter of support that would >enable me to get funding. Only Adult Probation wrote such a letter -- >wonderful, heartfelt -- giving full permission to use their name. > Peg Oliver >-----Original Message----- >From: AndresMuro@aol.com <AndresMuro@aol.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov> >Date: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:07 PM >Subject: [NIFL-POVRACELIT:1192] RE: The Weekly Dig Article on > > >>In a message dated 7/10/2003 6:59:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, AndresMuro >writes: >> >>> In a message dated 7/10/2003 4:55:30 PM Mountain Daylight Time, >tjjhjr@netscape.net writes: >>> >>> >>> why don't you go and say yes to your supervisor when they ask you to lie >to an elected official about your program......why don't you go vote >republican.....why don't you go change into a contractors outfit and >impersonate a bldg contractor when youyr boss asks you to.....why don't you >go lie to a university to get computers......why don't you just go and >'lock' up kids in a guidance office every day for an hour and fifteen >minutes...and don't give them any books or...credit for work done >overseas.....esp if it is A work....sorry you won't call,,,,,, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Sorry man, but I still don't have any idea of what you are talking about. I >don't do any of the things that you are asking because I don't want to. But >I don't understand why you are asking these questions. You always say >something, something..... As we we all knew what to fill in. I have no idea >of what you are talking about. Also, the program that I work in, is for >adults. I know that programs for kids are pretty much lousy. My step kids >are in them and they hate school. The oldest one dropped out of HS. The >youngest one is alwayas getting suspended. Still, since I don't know what >you are saying, I cannot agree, disagree or converse with you. Why don't you >sent a message pretending that I am an alien and start the story from the >beginning? >> >> Andres >> >>go here: www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html > > __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. 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