Return-Path: <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g15LMKu15224; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:22:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:22:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <71F645060E4BD31185B700805FA19346D0A9A3@MAILSRV1> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: David Baker <dbaker@iccb.state.il.us> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2213] Re: 3rd grade esl/reading/math X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Status: O Content-Length: 7533 Lines: 173 My two cents worth on the PowerPoint / Hyperstudio debate. 1. PowerPoint is a draw based program Hyperstudio is a paint based program. Which in my experience translates into Hyperstudio being easier to learn, but much less forgiving of mistakes. It seems PowerPoint is better at mostly text based presentation, while Hyperstudio is better at multimedia presentations 2. Once you learn PowerPoint it seems more flexible to use. 3. A Hyperstudio presentation can be password protected much more effectively than a PowerPoint presentation, therefore it is easy to create short interactive presentations that you can rest assured won't be tampered with. -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn DiPietro [mailto:kdipietr@utk.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2212] Re: 3rd grade esl/reading/math Sylvia and Steve, I would agree with Steve. They are very similar and both can be used to do basically the same thing. I have used both with children and adults for many years. My thoughts on both (for what they are worth): 1. HyperStudio seems to be a little more robust than PowerPoint and allows one to use Hyperscripting as well as "NBAs" (new button actions) to accomplish many things that I have not been able to do in PowerPoint such as allowing for the input of text in specific fields and such. The tools are more flexible than PowerPoint. I created my Ph.D. portfolio in Hyperstudio (all 100 screens of it!) and, in retrospect, I wish I had used something else. There is not a lot of platform transfer. I created on a Mac and my committee members, who are PC users, experienced some problems in viewing my portfolio. HyperStudio is somewhat unstable and many of my students experience Stack crashes or I/0 errors. HyperStudio 4.2 is out and we've had quite a few issues with it. I've spoken with the folks at Knowledge Adventure many times and while they are always so willing to help, we've never reached a resolve on the issues with Hyperstudio. The learning curve seems to be a bit steeper than PowerPoint, but I have some students who love it and use it extensively. If you are thinking ot using HyperStudio, write them and ask for the training CD and the workshop in a box (training materials that are relatively well done..and they will send you as many as you want with a demo version of HyperStudio). Also, with HyperStudio, be sure to save files directly to your hard drive as you are working and then once done working you can back them up on portable storage (zips, disks). HyperStudio is write intensive and I have seen so many disks/zips become corrupt because students work and save directly onto them. I've never been able to recover a Stack from an error. HyperStudio also recommends you keep your stacks under 1 meg. and link stacks together if you need more than 1 meg. 2. Powerpoint is not as robust, but certainly is a very powerful tool, is stable, easy to learn, and I've yet to have a PowerPoint presentation become corrupt. On the other hand, I recently presented at a conference and had .mov files embedded in my PowerPoint and could never get them to play embedded. PowerPoint and QuickTime just don't seem to get along well (although there are times when it works perfectly...go figure!) The draw tools certainly are nice enough, but a bit clunky to use. You can hyperlink out to websites, docs created in other applications (provided you have the application in the computer), or within your presentation. I've also never experienced platform transfer issues with PowerPoint. If you are using PowerPoint on a Mac that is running under OS X, you will want to reallocate memory for it if you are using the design templates or any of the advanced features as the screens tend to fragment amongst other things. Both incorporate video files and sound files (unless they are created in the application itself) as associated files. So don't move them around or you will find that your movies and sounds don't work :-(. Both have free players available online so if you create something you can play it anywhere with the free player. Both have pack and go features that let you pack it with the player. My bottomline..... If I had to pick only one, I'd take PowerPoint because of those durn I/O errors with HyperStudio. My students would take PowerPoint any day over HyperStudio. BUT, we use what we have to get the job done...so whichever is around, is generally the one that wins my vote! --Kathryn Steve Quann wrote: > Sylvia, > Responding to your question about Hyperstudio vs. PowerPoint: > I first learned PowerPoint and felt it was, for me, one of the easiest > application to learn. I am a visual learner so perhaps it was due to its > graphical interface. I then thought to learn HyperStudio would be a > snap, but I didn't find it all that easy. (Although it was not too bad. > Many have spoken of how easy it is.) I also recollect that it invovled a > few more steps than PP. I can't say whether one has significantly more > features than the other, although I do know there are some "programming" > features that PowerPoint has. Another advantage has been that it seems > more and more computers in labs have PP already. This is just my > experience. Anybody else? > > Steve Quann > New England Literacy Resource Center > World Education > 44 Farnsworth St. > Boston, MA 02210 > 617.482.9485 > email: squann@worlded.org > > >>> SylviaProvenski@nald.ca 02/05 12:08 PM >>> > I have heard several people mention Hyperstudio as a tool to create > computer presentations. I'm not familiar with this product but it > sounds > very similar to PowerPoint. Is it? If it is, why would you use it > instead > of PowerPoint? I take it, if you can use it with a grade 3 class, that > it > has a lower readability level and therefore would also be useful in a > literacy classroom with adults with low literacy skills. How expensive > is it? > Sylvia P. > > At 02:28 AM 05/02/02 -0500, you wrote: > >I recommend Hyperstudio. My third graders are currently creating a > >presentation on Ecosystems and researching information on a > particular > >habitat on this program. He could choose to create a math > presentation, or > >research a favorite topic by reading before he begins creating on the > >computer. Before he begins creating something on the program, he will > need > >to become an expert on a topic. He can then create a multimedia > >presentation for his family and classroom, by using the drawing > tools, > >sounds, and clip art on the program. I believe this program is > powerful and > >engaging for all types of learners. After creating a presentation, he > will > >be able to show his family and teachers how he created it and what he > >learned. > > > >Ideas on Hyperstudio: > > > >-He could create a presentation by typing the word problems on the > computer > >then creating an animation or cartoon that would describe the math > problem. > > > >-For reading, you could take him to the library and have him pick a > topic to > >read about (something he would like), then have him create a > presentation > >around what he read. (This is a great motivator!) > > > > > >I make all the students who have trouble concentrating in my class > experts > >on this program. This way, they can become the tutors for others and > they > >become more motivated to research on the topic. > > > >Karla Manes > >Third Grade Teacher > > > > > >----- > > NTMail K12 - the Mail Server for Education
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