Return-Path: <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h6ME0j721335; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <EE81FC4A94703A46976D9DF51EF10186022B8E5B@2kexmb.hq.corp.pbs.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Frances Keenan" <fkeenan@pbs.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2961] NRS and tracking time on task in DL X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 4467 Lines: 110 I am posting this for Cameron Cox of Intelecom (FK): I saw your post on NIFL-TECH (see below). As we roll out our family literacy series, Madison Heights and Lifelines, the issue of tracking is coming up all the time. In fact, it is an issue that has been out there since Crossroads Cafe debuted in 1996 (the CA 5% projects, for example). But accountability under NRS, etc. is in full swing now, and rubber is now meeting road at the program level. As a result we are seeing more and more innovative, often rudimentary ideas for tracking time-on-task....per video, per worktext unit, per activity, etc. We will be making some sample tracking forms created by pilot programs available online at www.intelecom.org/ilrn. Between time-on-task, pre- and post- measurements and benchmarking, assessment using CASAS, BEST, TABE, PEP, other State-created standards....then trying to align all of that with NRS....there's a whirlwind of activity this way. And confusion. And exhaustion. But the programs are rolling up their sleeves. It will be interesting to see how things shake out and shape up. I would should share this info in NIFL-TECHNOLOGY, but I can only receive posts. I can't reply to the group. Cameron Cox -----Original Message----- From: David J. Rosen [mailto:DJRosen@theworld.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2945] Re: National Reporting System Assessment for DL students Fran, Marian and others, There may be many solutions to this problem. In SDL, as compared with pure DL, it might not be a big problem. If students come for a face-to-face orientation, and periodically for face-to-face instruction, they could also take the same standardized pre- and post-assessments that classroom-based students take. This could be made clear as a requirement when students choose to enroll. This is the model we have used in the pilot sites in the Massachusetts Anywhere Anytime ABE DL program. Also, it's worth noting that the British Open University, the grandmother of pure DL, offering college courses to adults all over the world, requires students to pass a proctored face-to-exam at the end of the course for credit. Another possibility might be to use the NRS Project-based learning option. Has anyone offering SDL (or DL) done that? David J. Rosen NIFL-Technology Guest Moderator DJRosen@theworld.com On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 06:42 PM, Marian Thacher wrote: > Fran Keenan writes: >> I'm interested in whether anyone has ideas for how the NRS can take >> DL into account. If adult learners are doing all or some of their >> learning outside of the classroom, how is it getting tracked? What do >> these states who are investing in DL for adult education do? How are >> peope measuring the effect of distance learning? > > Well, that's the magic question. If anybody has an answer, I want to > hear > it! Assessment for DL is the big issue. I know here in Sacramento in > San > Juan Unified they have an extensive TV broadcast DL program. They track > the equivalent of "seat time" by a formula of so many minutes for each > lesson completed, so many for coming to orientation, so many for a > phone > call, and email etc. A similar formula is being used for the online > students. > > But as far as measuring learning gain, the only way they have right > now is > mailed in student work and portfolio assessment. The students are > learning > via TV because they can't come to school, and they can't come for > testing > either. Some will come in if invited, and offered an incentive such as > a > bus pass, but many won't. What's the solution? > > Marian Thacher, OTAN > www.otan.us __________________________________________________________________ PBS Program Clubs-like book clubs, but for TV. 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