Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f2KE37g07404; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:03:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:03:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <sab67151.041@langate.gsu.edu> Errors-To: alcrsb@langate.gsu.edu Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:1304] asking people to stand X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Status: O Content-Length: 2246 Lines: 37 Andrea, Thanks for sharing this useful experience. I am especially taken with your last comment of "putting a person in a position of either lying, by not standing, or doing something that is just too hard, and really it's not anyone else's business, is it?" Many workshops, often start with ice breakers that ask people to do just that! I never thought how we are really asking people to lie if they do not stand! Daphne >>> AWilder106@aol.com 03/16/01 15:42 PM >>> I recently had a very useful experience, so I thought I would share it as we are on this topic. I haven't seen my brother and his family for many years and I suffer at holidays from this loss. I decided to go to a rabbi who I much admired to ask his advice on what to do about my suffering. If course I told him about my early incest, and a lot of other bad things that have happened to me. He was shocked and upset, a very honest man and honest reaction and very helpful to me as a "reasonable" reaction. I said I identified with Joseph in the Bible, and he suggested that Job sounded more accurate. He also suggested I construct a new life. I converted and became a Jew 14 years ago, was originally a Protestant. I sought out a new way to live, what I call a 'lateral move," didn't cost much, and certainly gave me lots of new reading. I was profoundly affected by the meeting with the rabbi. I will always sob about my missing family, especially like now, moving into a holiday season, but at least I have some idea of who I am, what cultural space I can fit into as a person. This unusual man gave me a role and a metaphor for living, so building it is, as I talk to you all from the construction front. I take this all quite literally, and am having work done on the hous. It's very comforting to have the construction guys working away on the third floor. I think women have to "come out" of whatever they are emerging from in their own way, at least I did. I can stand up in a group if it suits, but I sure wouldn't push this on anyone, and I sort of object to putting a person in a position of either lying, by not standing, or doing something that is just too hard, and really it's not anyone else's business, is it? Andrea
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