Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id gAEJ1HX04843; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:01:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:01:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20021114105917.009f2cf0@mail.aracnet.com> Errors-To: alcrsb@langate.gsu.edu Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Sylvan Rainwater <sylvan@cccchs.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2406] Re: students/learners X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Status: O Content-Length: 1684 Lines: 37 At 10:03 PM 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks to Judy and Gail, I think that I will go to a nearby adult >literacy program and survey the students/learners and find out if they >want to be referred to as students or learners.<SNIP> Upon reflection, I find myself preferring "student" and "teacher." As someone else pointed out, we are all learners, and if I'm not learning as much as I teach, the process isn't working right. "Student" refers to a position within some sort of recognized structure, as opposed to just a general person out in the world. It signifies that a person has made some sort of commitment to enter into a situation where they can learn more. As for "instructor," that sounds to my ear more like someone is imparting instructions, rather than someone who is facilitating a learning process, which is more what I think of with the term "teacher." As you can imagine, several years ago when I was officially referred to as a "Lecturer" in a situation where I was totally co-facilitating a student-led classroom, I found it at least laughable. > But is this always true? <SNIP> >In other words, should we always let the person being referred to, >dictate what we feel comfortable calling him/her? Even if we feel that >the label they want to be called is either offensive, degrading, >humiliating, etc? Well, that gets into a whole other area. I think to some extent this has to be negotiated. Anyway, if there's disagreement, there's a lot of room for discussion and learning. -------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvan Rainwater . sylvan@cccchs.org Clackamas County Children's Commission Oregon City, OR USA
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