Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id gAEJDPX05376; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:13:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20021114111003.009f6650@mail.aracnet.com> Errors-To: alcrsb@langate.gsu.edu Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Sylvan Rainwater <sylvan@cccchs.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2408] Re: % of lgbt in adult literacy X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Status: O Content-Length: 1605 Lines: 30 At 01:27 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Rose Marie wrote: >Daphne; What are you folks, the census bureau? I don't think it is at >all important, unless there is some specific reason or goal in mind. If >it is to make folks more comfortable, then why don't we find out how >many Jews, Catholics, Muslims etc are in class to follow that line. Do >you suppose we will ever be one world, doing the best we can and >sometimes minding our own business and not looking for divisions? >Rose Marie I agree with you that in any sane world looking for these divisions would make no sense. But our world is not particularly sane. And oppression exists, based on sexual orientation. This oppression ranges from subtle exclusion to outright murder. I think we're trying to address that oppression, because it affects our learning experience on all sorts of levels. Trying to get a handle on how many people we are dealing with is one way of trying to find out more about it so we can get clearer. I think part of what we're trying to do is to overcome the invisibility factor. As I pointed out earlier, though, I think there are several problems with trying to assess percentages. And the issue you point out is also applicable -- not sure whether it makes a lot of sense to count members of various groups in order to accommodate them. But if we are at least aware of who is in our classes, it can help us facilitate their learning more effectively. -------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvan Rainwater . sylvan@cccchs.org Clackamas County Children's Commission Oregon City, OR USA
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