Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j2LKSLC04718; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <175AA390.6688E171.0A349A3F@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AWilder106@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:3203] Re: message from Andrea X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Status: O Content-Length: 1819 Lines: 16 Yes, it is vital. I think only women would realize this and understand the depth of the problem, at an emotional level. First, it opens the topic up for scrutiny--by topic I mean men's judgment of women's place. If you haven't been there you really can't get it. Larry Summers is a big name, what he says carries weight.This is why role switching is useful, and why I used the black example. It kind of pries open the lid of the male unconscious--don't mean to offend the guys on the list--one male unconscious. You see, Summers made a slip, the other examples he cited had to do with conscious choice, eg, Jews in farming, but the female one didn't. I think the guy meant it. Around where I live, I might have said Lebanese in auto repair. Some people who supported Summers's statement I have to say were troglodytes. Second, there has been a lot of gain in females in science jobs, witness the HSPH letter, which was signed by Jennifer Leaning (reports on human rights, most particularly now from Darfur) among 4 other female signers, I think it was. My guess is that both the male and female members of the faculty at HSPH were outraged--many of these people, like Jennifer, actually do risk their lives--public health, not a field for sissies. When you go through tough times together, there seems to be development of some loyalty. Third, reading the book I cited helped me understand male/female differences so I can work with the differences. In a weird way, Sax's book is a brain-based non-sexual version of Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. Hey--that is not a cheap book, I don't get a commission, it is scholarly but also somewhat popular. Check it in the bookstore first. The issue of Time was March 7. I saved it, as did one of my professor friends. Much food for thought there. Andrea
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