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[Assessment 1038] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to know!
Bruce C
bcarmel at rocketmail.comTue Oct 30 10:24:02 EDT 2007
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Hi Andrea
Sounds interesting. I'd like to learn more. Where can I find this research?
Thanks from Bruce Carmel
Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
There is brain research which shows that when the TEACHER focuses on a
certain aspect of reading or learning, he STUDENT will follow this
lead.
Andrea
On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:19 AM, Jackie Coelho wrote:
> Shirley, I agree that an enjoyment of reading is the first step. I
> have been reading small novels with my Pre-GED level students for
> three years now. And when we finish one book, they are always quick to
> ask what the next will be. They really enjoy spending time discussing
> the characters, the issues and relating all to themselves. Last week
> we read a text that explains in detail why leaves change color and
> then fall off. The next day a student told me she had never looked at
> fall foliage the way she does now.
> If a student enjoys reading or sees a real purpose to it, he or she
> does it more than willingly.
> Jackie
>
> On 10/29/07, shirley ledet wrote:
>> I agree, however by the time I students get to us they need a reason
>> to
>> read. Discussion brings an interest and desire to read. When very
>> young
>> children are given that desire because of the way it is introduced.
>> the
>> desire build, the cognitive recognition of reading, thoughts,
>> imagination
>> and pleasure are place in the lexicon and "walaa" you have a reader.
>> When
>> this is not done, the students sees reading as a means to end and
>> therefore
>> drudgery. Telling a students to read whose mantra has become "I hate
>> reading" " I was never good at reading" "I always fail reading" is
>> pointless. We must awaken the desire and the learning will come. With
>> joy.....most of the time.
>> Shirley
>>
>>
>> Wendy Quinones wrote:
>> Actually, all of the GED tests are reading -- even math for the most
>> part.
>> I think Mary Lynn is right on!
>>
>> On 10/26/07, Mary Lynn Simons wrote:
>>>
>>> Three of the GED tests are reading. If the teacher is talking a lot
>>> and if
>> students are talking a lot, students are not reading. Reading is a
>> skill.
>> The reason most people read poorly is that they don't read much. The
>> reason
>> people type poorly is that they don't type; the reason people do not
>> play
>> the guitar well is that they don't play, and on and on and on. I say,
>> "Shut
>> up and read."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007
>> 15:39:46 -0400> From: tborge at bhcc.mass.edu> To: assessment at nifl.gov >
>> Subject: [Assessment 1002] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to
>> know!>>
>> When we are referring to creativity do we mean teaching critical
>> thinking
>> skills which once our students know how to think in a critical
>> thinking way
>> they will be successful in achieving their education and other life
>> goals.
>> However, just like K-12 education, adult education is captured on the
>> high
>> stakes spinning wheel of accountability which stifles creativity and
>> teachers teach to the test.> Toni Borge> BHCC> Adult Education &
>> Transitions
>> Program> Boston, MA> ________________________________>
>> From: assessment-bounces at nifl.gov
>> [mailto:assessment-bounces at nifl.gov] On
>> Behalf Of shirley ledet> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:30 PM>
>> To: The
>> Assessment Discussion List> Subject: [Assessment 1001] Re: GED
>> Discussion -
>> what you need to know!> I agree that creativity is not the enemy of
>> success
>> on standardized test. We need look no further then those who have been
>> successful on any type of test. We tend to use terms like natuarally
>> gifted,
>> just smart, etc. If you speak to these folks they are well rounded,
>> enjoy
>> reading, mvies, theater, they tend to use terms like "I don't know, I
>> just
>> know stuff." Researchers have found that this may be the reason for
>> disparity between ethnicity. I believe there is more disparity
>> between socio
>> economic background then ethnicity. Exposure to the arts, banking
>> industry,
>> faculty, medicine, legal issues as part of your everyday life tends
>> to offer
>> more of an advantage when testing then someone whose only exposure is
>> to go
>> to school and study hard. My students participate in a quite a few
>> creative
>> projects and those that "get into it" tend to do better in all
>> subjects.
>> Those that feel it is a waste of time and they just want to "study
>> for the
>> GED" are generally frustrated when "all of their hard work does not
>> pay off
>> like they would like." Creativity also leads to retention; especially
>> those
>> activities that have to be completed in increments. Let's bring on
>> more
>> creativity!> Shirley Ledet> GED Instructor> NHC-Carver>
>> djrosen at comcast.net
>> wrote:> Colleagues,> I am a proponent of creativity in adult literacy
>> education -- indeed in all education. As Marc Tucker, President of the
>> National Center for Education and the Economy, has said in a
>> presention
>> recently to the National Commission on Adult Literacy,
>> http://www.caalusa.org/video/choices.html , the U.S.
>> education system -- and he includes adult education, cannot be
>> competitive
>> without high academic standards AND creativity.> But many GED
>> teachers and
>> administrators believe that their students will not pass the GED
>> unless they
>> focus on skills and knowledge needed to pass the test, that
>> creativity is a
>> "distraction" and a time-waster. (Many K-12 teachers, administrators
>> or
>> policy makers also believe creativity distracts from passing high
>> stakes
>> tests.) I hate to be the one to raise this issue, but it's the key
>> question
>> on the minds of many GED teachers and administrators, so I invite the
>> panelists to address it.> Is creativity a distraction or is it
>> essential for
>> success? Why?> David J. Rosen> djrosen at comcast.net> --------------
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>> you need
>> to know!> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:43:14 +0000> Hi everyone,> We've
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