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[Assessment 1039] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to know!
Andrea Wilder
andreawilder at comcast.netTue Oct 30 11:03:05 EDT 2007
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McCandliss is the researcher. He talked in one part of a speech at the
Learning and the Brain Conference. All sessions are recorded, so I
bought some copies on CD's.
McCandliss used as his example whole word learning and phonetic
learning--what the teacher focuses on the student will follow.
It's also the white matter, myelinated parts of axons (10,000/neuron)
that send the electric/chemical signals to the next neuron. "Speed of
processing" accounts for a lot of "intelligence." "The race to he
swift," etc.
Andrea
On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Bruce C wrote:
> Hi Andrea
> Sounds interesting. I'd like to learn more. Where can I find this
> research?
> Thanks from Bruce Carmel
>
>
> Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
>> There is brain research which shows that when the TEACHER focuses on a
>> certain aspect of reading or learning, he STUDENT will follow this
>> lead.
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:19 AM, Jackie Coelho wrote:
>>
>> > Shirley, I agree that an enjoyment of reading is the first step. I
>> > have been reading small novels with my Pre-GED level students for
>> > three years now. And when we finish one book, they are always quick
>> to
>> > ask what the next will be. They really enjoy spending time
>> discussing
>> > the characters, the issues and relating all to themselves. Last week
>> > we read a text that explains in detail why leaves change color and
>> > then fall off. The next day a student told me she had never looked
>> at
>> > fall foliage the way she does now.
>> > If a student enjoys reading or sees a real purpose to it, he or she
>> > does it more than willingly.
>> > Jackie
>> >
>> > On 10/29/07, shirley ledet wrote:
>> >> I agree, however by the time I students get to us they need a
>> reason
>> >> to
>> >> read. Discussion brings an interest and desire to read. When very
>> >> young
>> >> children are given that desire because of the way it is introduced.
>> >> the
>> >> desire build, the cognitive recognition of reading, thoughts,
>> >> imagination
>> >> and pleasure are place in the lexicon and "walaa" you have a
>> reader.
>> >> When
>> >> this is not done, the students sees reading as a means to end and
>> >> therefore
>> >> drudgery. Telling a students to read whose mantra has become "I
>> hate
>> >> reading" " I was never good at reading" "I always fail reading" is
>> >> pointless. We must awaken the desire and the learning will come.
>> With
>> >> joy.....most of the time.
>> >> Shirley
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wendy Quinones wrote:
>> >> Actually, all of the GED tests are reading -- even math for the
>> most
>> >> part.
>> >> I think Mary Lynn is right on!
>> >>
>> >> On 10/26/07, Mary Lynn Simons wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Three of the GED tests are reading. If the teacher is talking a
>> lot
>> >>> and if
>> >> students are talking a lot, students are not reading. Reading is a
>> >> skill.
>> >> The reason most people read poorly is that they don't read much.
>> The
>> >> reason
>> >> people type poorly is that they don't type; the reason people do
>> not
>> >> play
>> >> the guitar well is that they don't play, and on and on and on. I
>> say,
>> >> "Shut
>> >> up and read."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ________________________________> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007
>> >> 15:39:46 -0400> From: tborge at bhcc.mass.edu> To:
>> assessment at nifl.gov >
>> >> Subject: [Assessment 1002] Re: GED Discussion - what you need to
>> >> know!>>
>> >> When we are referring to creativity do we mean teaching critical
>> >> thinking
>> >> skills which once our students know how to think in a critical
>> >> thinking way
>> >> they will be successful in achieving their education and other life
>> >> goals.
>> >> However, just like K-12 education, adult education is captured on
>> the
>> >> high
>> >> stakes spinning wheel of accountability which stifles creativity
>> and
>> >> teachers teach to the test.> Toni Borge> BHCC> Adult Education &
>> >> Transitions
>> >> Program> Boston, MA> ________________________________>
>> >> From: assessment-bounces at nifl.gov
>> >> [mailto:assessment-bounces at nifl.gov] On
>> >> Behalf Of shirley ledet> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:30 PM>
>> >> To: The
>> >> Assessment Discussion List> Subject: [Assessment 1001] Re: GED
>> >> Discussion -
>> >> what you need to know!> I agree that creativity is not the enemy of
>> >> success
>> >> on standardized test. We need look no further then those who have
>> been
>> >> successful on any type of test. We tend to use terms like
>> natuarally
>> >> gifted,
>> >> just smart, etc. If you speak to these folks they are well rounded,
>> >> enjoy
>> >> reading, mvies, theater, they tend to use terms like "I don't
>> know, I
>> >> just
>> >> know stuff." Researchers have found that this may be the reason for
>> >> disparity between ethnicity. I believe there is more disparity
>> >> between socio
>> >> economic background then ethnicity. Exposure to the arts, banking
>> >> industry,
>> >> faculty, medicine, legal issues as part of your everyday life tends
>> >> to offer
>> >> more of an advantage when testing then someone whose only exposure
>> is
>> >> to go
>> >> to school and study hard. My students participate in a quite a few
>> >> creative
>> >> projects and those that "get into it" tend to do better in all
>> >> subjects.
>> >> Those that feel it is a waste of time and they just want to "study
>> >> for the
>> >> GED" are generally frustrated when "all of their hard work does not
>> >> pay off
>> >> like they would like." Creativity also leads to retention;
>> especially
>> >> those
>> >> activities that have to be completed in increments. Let's bring on
>> >> more
>> >> creativity!> Shirley Ledet> GED Instructor> NHC-Carver>
>> >> djrosen at comcast.net
>> >> wrote:> Colleagues,> I am a proponent of creativity in adult
>> literacy
>> >> education -- indeed in all education. As Marc Tucker, President of
>> the
>> >> National Center for Education and the Economy, has said in a
>> >> presention
>> >> recently to the National Commission on Adult Literacy,
>> >> http://www.caalusa.org/video/choices.html , the U.S.
>> >> education system -- and he includes adult education, cannot be
>> >> competitive
>> >> without high academic standards AND creativity.> But many GED
>> >> teachers and
>> >> administrators believe that their students will not pass the GED
>> >> unless they
>> >> focus on skills and knowledge needed to pass the test, that
>> >> creativity is a
>> >> "distraction" and a time-waster. (Many K-12 teachers,
>> administrators
>> >> or
>> >> policy makers also believe creativity distracts from passing high
>> >> stakes
>> >> tests.) I hate to be the one to raise this issue, but it's the key
>> >> question
>> >> on the minds of many GED teachers and administrators, so I invite
>> the
>> >> panelists to address it.> Is creativity a distraction or is it
>> >> essential for
>> >> success? Why?> David J. Rosen> djrosen at comcast.net> --------------
>> >> Original
>> >> message ----------------------> From: "Marie Cora">> Hi
>> everyone,>>>>
>> >> We've
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>> >> Thanks!!>>>> Marie Cora>> Assessment Discussion List
>> >> Moderator>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >> "Marie Cora"> To:> Subject: [Assessment 942] GED Discussion - what
>> >> you need
>> >> to know!> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:43:14 +0000> Hi everyone,> We've
>> >> had
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