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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ted,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I like the list very much too, and hope you can answer Marie’s
questions. Also, how large is your program, how many hours/week do classes
meet, and how would you “grade” your program using this list? What
percentage of your students advance a level (or more) in a year (or more)? You
don’t list intensity and duration of instruction – two factors that
Jodi Crandall and I have found important. Do you find these important too, or
do you think those factors “wash out” if the principles you list
are followed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Forrest Chisman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Vice President<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>CAAL <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
assessment-bounces@nifl.gov [mailto:assessment-bounces@nifl.gov] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Marie Cora<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Assessment@nifl.gov<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Assessment 1110] Re: Observation checklist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi
Ted,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks
for this. This is a great list - did you generate it yourself? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
guess I have a bunch of questions for you about it:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>How
do you use it? As a general guide, or do you deliberately try to
address each item? Are you the only one who uses this, or do
others you work with?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Do
you find that if you adhere to these principles, that the students advance?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Marie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> assessment-bounces@nifl.gov [mailto:assessment-bounces@nifl.gov] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ted Klein<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 04, 2008 9:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Assessment Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Assessment 1105] Re: No Questions or Comments?!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Marie,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>In the long run, this may be all that I know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"'>Ted</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.tedklein-ESL.com">www.tedklein-ESL.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>20
Questions: </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
letter-spacing:-.15pt'>LANGUAGE CLASS OBSERVATION CHECKLIST</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
YES NO
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>1.
Were there 10 or fewer students in the
class? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>2.
Was the classroom comfortable in terms
of
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
environment and learning
atmosphere?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>3.
Did the instructor have a pleasant
and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
supportive
personality?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>4.
Were the lessons communication centered,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
rather than informational, most of the
time? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>5.
Was the instructor a native-speaker
or
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
near native-speaker of the target language? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>6.
Was the target language used as a
medium
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
of instruction all or most of the
time?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>7.
Did the students do most of the
communication, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
rather than the
instructor?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>8.
Did the instructor maintain control of the
class <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
in a non-threatening
manner?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>9.
Did members of the class seem compatible with
each <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
other and the
instructor?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>10.
Did the students seem closely matched in
their
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
target language
proficiency?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>11.
Did all of the students
participate?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>12.
Were students
enthusiastic?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>13.
Did the instructor use a variety of
techniques
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
to elicit communication
activities?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>14.
Did the instructor assist students,
rather
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
than push
them?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>15.
Did the instructor use normal, rather
than
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
exaggerated
speech?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>16.
Were training aids used to enhance or
reinforce <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
results?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>17.
Were new learning objectives reinforced adequately? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>18.
Was correction applied moderately and
positively <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
so that it wouldn't inhibit
communication?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>19.
Was there a balance of language skills
(listening, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
speaking, reading and
writing?)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;line-height:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>20.
Were students dealt with appropriately for
their <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
ages? (e.g. adults treated like adults).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";letter-spacing:-.15pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>---- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com"
title="marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com">Marie Cora</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:Assessment@nifl.gov" title="Assessment@nifl.gov">Assessment@nifl.gov</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, February 04,
2008 5:50 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [Assessment 1103] No
Questions or Comments?!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello
everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’m
so surprised! No one has anything to comment on regarding your
program’s effectiveness at helping ESL students advance?? I was
very curious to know if subscribers experience the same types of issues that
Dr. Chisman and Dr. Crandall found in their research: a lack of intensity
of instruction/few protocols for transitioning students/few opportunities for
professional development.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What
are the issues in your program that you feel inhibit the ESL student from
advancing? What do you try to do about that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please
post your questions and comments now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Marie
Cora<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Assessment
Discussion List Moderator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Marie
Cora</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>NIFL
Assessment Discussion List Moderator</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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