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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>I have not been a part of this discussion and I really liked the tool that Ted has shared with us. However, I have question and I hope that it is not something that has already been asked and answered. <BR>
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The first item on Ted’s list is a little confusing. In most of our ESL classes we enroll more than 10 students because of fiscal constraints and the need for ESL in the community. So is it a negative or a positive to have fewer than 10 students in a class? In our case, we expect to see more than 10 students in a class and for the teacher to sustain the numbers. <BR>
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As for the achievement gap, it is huge issue in all literacy programs because of many socio-economic factors. <BR>
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In our area, part of the Bay Area, the boom in the housing market (in past several years) and high rents made it difficult for people to stay in one neighborhood. Therefore they constantly move (this is seen more in people who do not have high levels of education from their native country). <BR>
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People with a certain level of education (college degrees from their countries are more likely to find stable jobs and have some kind of community support). Most other people hold two or more jobs, go in and out of classes, change schedules, and finally drop out because of various constraints. More than likely, they lack study skills and have no time to practice. <BR>
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The achievement gap stems not only from the differences in educational levels of immigrants, but also due the huge difference in the availability of community resources. <BR>
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Usha Narayanan<BR>
Sunnyvale-Cupertino Adult Education<BR>
California<BR>
408-522-2737<BR>
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On 2/5/08 1:00 PM, "Ted Klein" <taklein@austin.rr.com> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Marie,<BR>
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I did this list years ago based on literally decades in and out of the U.S.A. teaching, training teachers, supervising, coordinating, etc. in ESL. It is based on what seems to work or not work. I'm proud to say that I'm back in the ESL trenches after, among other things, twenty years with the Defense Language Institute English Language Center. I've been teaching immigrants part time for the last eight years for the Adult Education Department at Austin Community College. Getting back in the trenches has reminded me of what language teaching is all about. I feel sorry for anybody who has to work at a higher level, because that's really not as much fun! I truly hope that I apply everything on my list daily and don't fall into any of the "easy traps." I have distributed this list over the years to anybody who seemed interested and it is published on my website at <a href="http://www.tedklein-esl.com/ESL/20questions.html">http://www.tedklein-esl.com/ESL/20questions.html</a> Feel absolutely free to use it in any way that will make life easier for students. Thank you very much for the input. Questions are welcome. <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="6"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:24.0px'> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:14.0px'>Theodore A. (Ted) Klein, Jr.<BR>
Independent Consultant in Language<BR>
and Intercultural Training<BR>
14456 Agarita Road<BR>
Austin, Texas 78734-2009<BR>
Phone:512-266-1801<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Marie Cora <a href="mailto:marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com"><mailto:marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com></a> <BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> [Assessment 1110] Re: Observation checklist<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE="Arial">Hi Ted,<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial">Thanks for this. This is a great list - did you generate it yourself? <BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial">I guess I have a bunch of questions for you about it:<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial">How do you use it? As a general guide, or do you deliberately try to address each item? Are you the only one who uses this, or do others you work with?<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial">Do you find that if you adhere to these principles, that the students advance?<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial">Marie<BR>
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<B>From:</B> assessment-bounces@nifl.gov [<a href="mailto:assessment-bounces@nifl.gov]">mailto:assessment-bounces@nifl.gov]</a> <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ted Klein<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 04, 2008 9:49 PM<BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> [Assessment 1105] Re: No Questions or Comments?!<BR>
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Marie,<BR>
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In the long run, this may be all that I know.<BR>
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www.tedklein-ESL.com <a href="http://www.tedklein-ESL.com"><http://www.tedklein-ESL.com></a> <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>20 Questions: </SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>LANGUAGE CLASS OBSERVATION CHECKLIST</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> YES NO <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>1. Were there 10 or fewer students in the class? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>2. Was the classroom comfortable in terms of <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> environment and learning atmosphere? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>3. Did the instructor have a pleasant and <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> supportive personality? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>4. Were the lessons communication centered, <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> rather than informational, most of the time? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>5. Was the instructor a native-speaker or <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> near native-speaker of the target language? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>6. Was the target language used as a medium <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> of instruction all or most of the time? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>7. Did the students do most of the communication, <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>8. Did the instructor maintain control of the class <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> in a non-threatening manner? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>9. Did members of the class seem compatible with each <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> other and the instructor? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>10. Did the students seem closely matched in their <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> target language proficiency? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>11. Did all of the students participate? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>12. Were students enthusiastic? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>13. Did the instructor use a variety of techniques <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> to elicit communication activities? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>14. Did the instructor assist students, rather <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> than push them? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>15. Did the instructor use normal, rather than <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> exaggerated speech? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>16. Were training aids used to enhance or reinforce <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> results? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>17. Were new learning objectives reinforced adequately? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>18. Was correction applied moderately and positively <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> so that it wouldn't inhibit communication? <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>19. Was there a balance of language skills (listening, <BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>20. Were students dealt with appropriately for their <BR>
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<B>From:</B> Marie Cora <a href="mailto:marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com"><mailto:marie.cora@hotspurpartners.com></a> <BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> [Assessment 1103] No Questions or Comments?!<BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>Hello everyone,<BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>I’m so surprised! No one has anything to comment on regarding your program’s effectiveness at helping ESL students advance?? I was very curious to know if subscribers experience the same types of issues that Dr. Chisman and Dr. Crandall found in their research: a lack of intensity of instruction/few protocols for transitioning students/few opportunities for professional development.<BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>What are the issues in your program that you feel inhibit the ESL student from advancing? What do you try to do about that?<BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>Please post your questions and comments now.<BR>
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